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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: May 01, 2011, 04:59:28 PM »
My thinking is that the 34079 is just a little too harsh and a small bit of faded O.D. would tone it down a bit. I'll mix some up and spray it on one horizontal stabilizer to see how it looks. None of the photos we've seen show a huge contrast between the colors.

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Ground Forces / Re: Lancia Delta Integrale - Italeri 1/24
« on: May 01, 2011, 04:49:32 PM »
Yes, I like it very much, and we don't see any flaws!

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: F-106 Delta Dart
« on: May 01, 2011, 08:47:46 AM »
More progress. I used BareMetal foil to trim the inlet openings, sprayed Metalizer on the aft fuselage ring and refueling receptacle. Then a start on the decals.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6859.jpg


I thought that I'd researched the airplane and decals pretty thoroughly, but I just found that I haven't got the correct Tactical Air Command badges for either side of the vertical. The 49th FIS became part of TAC during one of the reshufflings of USAF commands and the older style badges on my sheet are the wrong ones. It'll take some digging in unbuilt models to find what I'm needing, I suppose.......

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: May 01, 2011, 08:41:35 AM »
Just a quick update on my Old Leaf color research. Here is a color swatch I brushed together today with all of the different khaki and olive drab colors I could find and a couple of custom mixed variations also.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6861.jpg

I'm leaning toward a custom mix that isn't on the palette right now. Opinions?

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 30, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »
Indeed! I'll pick up a container of H-149 or FS 34079 and compare it to my "custom mixed" color. I haven't sprayed this color yet so I'll take your advice, Nico!

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 30, 2011, 06:19:52 PM »
I've done some more research and head-scratching and come up with a custom mix of faded O.D. and ANA 613 that seems to have just about the right amount of khaki shading in it. It contrasts well enough with the medium green without being too light or too dark. This is a very hard nut to crack since I haven't any color photos of the Interceptor, just the black and white pictures. The various line drawings are very helpful but, again, the colors are somewhat of an educated guess.

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 29, 2011, 08:38:31 PM »
One thing I forgot to mention is that I'm building my model as it would have been after relatively little service in the combat zone. The sun surely faded the paint, especially that khaki color, to a lighter shade after a bit of exposure.

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 29, 2011, 08:27:06 PM »
That is true. I've read many opinions that give a variety of shades of green/brown for the KNIL aircraft. I used the above link as sort of a baseline to start with and am still open to suggestions on the khaki. The test strips will give me a pretty good idea if the ANA 613 has enough brown to suit the three-view you posted earlier. The medium green looks pretty close after it has had some time to dry.

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 29, 2011, 07:45:20 PM »
I made a new photo since you posted, No.1. That first one was really, really bad!!!

Draken,

The green is Testors MM FS 34092 "European I Dark Green". The khaki/olive drab I'm planning on using is MM ANA 613 which is equivalent to USAAF O.D. 41. I don't know exactly how it will match up to the green so I'll do some test strips first to see if I'm satisfied. The supposed best equivalent FS number is 34088. I'll do some testing tomorrow evening and let you see the results. I've been all over getting references and the best is here: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2005/09/stuff_eng_dutch_af_colours_02.htm#KNIL 1936-1950 The KNIL references are toward the bottom third of the page.

Scott

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Curtiss-Wright CW-21B
« on: April 29, 2011, 07:25:30 PM »
The first top color is applied and drying, now on to the landing gear doors and some other little detail items.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6855.jpg

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Fokker D.VII Group build
« on: April 29, 2011, 06:16:31 PM »
I'll be watching and enjoying this one from the sidelines--no kit. However, I am going to a hobby store soon.......... ;)

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: PZL P.11c LTD 1/48
« on: April 29, 2011, 07:09:45 AM »
Profa, that is "Bondo" brand spot finishing putty for auto body refinishing.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_5812.jpg

 It's really just red lacquer primer in a paste form and it works very well. Testors used to market the exact product in their modeling line and my tube lasted for over a decade before it finally got too stiff to use.

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: PZL P.11c LTD 1/48
« on: April 28, 2011, 08:38:23 PM »
It truly is better than some of the reviews I've read about it. There is a lot of flash on some of the parts and the sprue attachments are quite large, but if you are careful these flaws clean up rather nicely. The details, especially on the wing surfaces, is really nice, and the other parts just need some rescribing and clean-up to be very useable. I suspect that some of the reviewers were "spoiled" by the Tamiya-type models of today. When I started not every kit was perfect!

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: PZL P.11c LTD 1/48
« on: April 28, 2011, 08:11:47 PM »
A brief update--here is the assembled wing in the process of finishing. The surfaces have nicely molded, very delicate, corrugations on the upper and lower skins. In order to make the seams as invisible as possible, the moldmaker placed each seam at an area that is easy to fill without losing the grooving that represents the corrugations. The wing is molded in five pieces, the gull-shaped center section and four outer panels. After tweaking the center section just a bit to get the dihedral right I glued it all together.

Here are two photos of how I applied the filler to each seam. I masked the corrugations off on either side with thin tape and applied the filler, sanded, repeated, etc. By using this tape I kept my sanding and filling operation from obliterating the surface detail.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6852.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6853.jpg

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Forums Works / Re: Group builds
« on: April 26, 2011, 04:59:50 PM »
Yes, I had seen the Neomega conversion kit on the internet. It's a shame it isn't available as I really like the simple look of the early airplanes with the small intake and shock spike. I'll keep searching the auction websites and maybe I'll get lucky!

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