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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Warplane Art => Topic started by: No.1 on April 01, 2008, 10:25:02 AM

Title: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 01, 2008, 10:25:02 AM
I don't know much about this airplane so challenge is that bigger. Here you are first step of art work- just basic drawings positioning and engine over it. Engine is Jupiter and I have made it before. Just place inside for this art :))
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: santynus on April 01, 2008, 11:43:54 AM
interesting subject No.1  :-ok the engine look nice  :-clap :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: mfg495 on April 01, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
What you are looking at is a "COW" gun fitted to I think a Vickers Type 161.

"At the end of the first World War, the Coventry Ordnance Works were producing a 37-mm cannon for aircraft use, known as the 1½ pdr COW gun. This was a fairly large weapon, weighing 95 kg, and firing a 37 × 190 cartridge. It was relatively slow-firing at 100 to 120 rpm, and the muzzle velocity was 580 to 610 m/s. This was a modest performance, similar to that of the 37 mm M4 cannon which armed many P-39 Airacobra and P-63 Kingcobra fighters during WWII."
Source - http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/history/NoAllowance.html

The type 161 single-seat fighter returned to a old formula: It was a pusher biplane with twin tail booms. It was designed to carry the 37mm COW gun, which was fixed in a 45 degrees upward firing position. The 161 was of all-metal contruction and flew well, but the interest in the type vanished together with the interest in its armament. One built.

Function: fighter
Year: 1931 Crew: 1 Engines: 1 * 530hp Bristol Jupiter VIIF
Wing Span: 9.57m Length: 7.16m Height: 3.76m Wing Area: 25.08m2
Empty Weight: 1080kg Max.Weight: 1520kg
Speed: 298km/h Ceiling: Range:
Armament: 1*g37mm
Source - http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/gustin_military/db/br/VICKER06.html

Here's a link to Nic Braas image of a Type 161
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/4037.htm
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Letipapa on April 02, 2008, 01:14:27 PM
Great! :-tri :-obey :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 07, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
 :-wave :-ok
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: mfg495 on April 07, 2008, 03:04:00 PM
 :-eek :-obey :-ok
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 11, 2008, 04:00:54 PM
More work from me  :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: mfg495 on April 11, 2008, 04:05:27 PM
Look good my friend  :-ok
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Letipapa on April 12, 2008, 11:21:58 PM
Yes :-clap :-clap :-clap,
only that glass wind shield in front - isn't it to much down and away of cockpit :-think :-think :-think. also the color of glass - light turquoise? :-think
Hm,I don't know, but judging from the last photo, I would check that position.
The body is fantastic. :-obey :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 12, 2008, 11:58:56 PM
Windscreen is in offset position and this art is still in development mode. Final look will get in post shading step... ;)
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 14, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Letipapa on April 15, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Yes, I was later comparing Your art and photo, and it is really hard to tell the position, especially because this windscreen is very exceptional looking.
No 1, you are master of shadows! :-obey :) :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 16, 2008, 10:34:01 AM
Thank you mate  :-ok Well i have a lot of problems with this art. Simply reason is that basic drawings are not much accurate so in many cases I have to erase what I have done before and start again. For example see on this new that panels are changed as well note the nuts- there is many diagonal which is clearly visible on original images. From very new things are bolts of two sizes and in shine metal and polished front cover. I use as an experiment brushes mostly used for the landscape painting and proven for surfaces, clouds, haze, smoke...
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 16, 2008, 04:55:35 PM
Another one and this is far enough for today.
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: samuraj77 on April 16, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
 :-clap
Great work so far mate  :-ok
 :-clap
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: santynus on April 16, 2008, 09:45:16 PM
Great work boss  ;) :-clap
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 16, 2008, 11:49:07 PM
 :-ok :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 17, 2008, 11:02:19 AM
A little progress made this morning. Many details would be finished but I have a stroke... well- everybody who live in Serbia know that electric distribution company have very interesting hobby. To cut supply without announcement and if this happen that you are work in Photoshop in the moment and especially you have area under selection- be sure that you file will be gone forever. I have lost many files in that way. This happen today again and this art was under selection during this event. Don't ask me how this happen that this work was not damaged forever. At least I was that nervous that I have fit just few details and could not continue with work. Here what we have now.

I will drink a cup of my domestic rakija and take my kid out  :-/
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 17, 2008, 12:49:44 PM
All right- I am back. Some reworks on the tail shadows and I go not to make some scale kit and watch some cartoons  :-joke
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 17, 2008, 03:45:47 PM
It should be finished in one day.
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: santynus on April 17, 2008, 09:17:19 PM
very nice  :-clap
meybe is only my sensation :-think but the fusolage next the tail look a little bit strange meybe a little flat... :-blah
by the way is onather masterpieces  :-tri :-ok
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 17, 2008, 09:48:23 PM
Hi mate,

this is possible illusion caused but surrounding flat shapes and shadow. I think I have finish it. But i will wait Nico Braas to come back and give final opinion. This was very hard art to do in every aspect. First at all to set all of this in head and then to show on paper...

 :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Wingman81 on April 17, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
wow what is this for a gun ?  :-green Nice work mate.
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 17, 2008, 11:52:09 PM
 :-ok :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 18, 2008, 09:19:15 AM
Few details were missing on tail. Now it is very final  :-razz
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: samuraj77 on April 18, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
It just looks great  :-tri
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: santynus on April 18, 2008, 09:15:20 PM
great work Srecko! :-jump :-clap :-obey
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Letipapa on April 28, 2008, 06:41:16 PM
Really great work! :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
And what a gun :-tri. It surely was frightening to see it in the air with this gun monster. :)
I will just suggest (always I have something :-/) that it could be very intersting in profiles of such kind of airplanes to see another aviator that is sitting next to one we see first... but that is just an idea.
By the way, who an how was shooting with this gun. It's position is strange...??? :-think :-think :-think
 Once again: wonderfull!:-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on April 28, 2008, 06:59:36 PM
Hope that Nico could give you more technical info as well this is profile for his article for web site.
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: Letipapa on April 28, 2008, 07:14:13 PM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap You guys are working, and I'm just talking. :-obey :-obey :-obey :-wave
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: mfg495 on May 03, 2008, 04:53:51 PM
Great work No.1, you must put so many hours into producing them  :-/
Title: Re: Vickers COW
Post by: No.1 on May 03, 2008, 05:24:55 PM
Its true. And I can after that have only one profile. Completely different then on the Bf109 where I could made a lot of them.