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Title: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on June 30, 2010, 05:23:56 PM: Hi all,

I have started my next subject, the Handley Page Halifax MkBIII. This will be my second ever profile, things are moving much faster than my first, noly about 15 minutes into it so far.

Matt
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on June 30, 2010, 06:04:14 PM: Quote from: mattrcaf on June 30, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
things are moving much faster than my first, noly about 15 minutes into it so far.

Matt

Ha ha ha- everybody get on steroids when work here :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: samuraj77 on June 30, 2010, 10:18:55 PM: Great start
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Post by: Letipapa on June 30, 2010, 11:10:30 PM: Yep! Go on Matt :-ok :-salut
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on July 20, 2010, 06:01:16 PM: Work continues. Fortunately I have lots of photos that I have taken of the restored Halifax in Trenton to reference.

Here are the engines (90% finished) and tail fin. I try to do the most difficult and least interesting areas first in
order to keep from getting bored, its seems to be working so far.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: samuraj77 on July 20, 2010, 06:02:48 PM: Nice details... :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on July 21, 2010, 02:12:48 PM: Outstanding details :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on August 21, 2010, 01:14:23 AM: More progress, fortunately I have lots of good photos, panels and rivet patterns are inconsistent on the halifax. Here is the forward fuselage section, I hate the carburetor ducts on the engines (the vents on top) and i will be re-doing them.

Machine guns = much fun!

Let me know what you think guys.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on August 21, 2010, 07:35:39 AM: It look really great :-clap :-clap One point- it is true that engine cowling's look realistic but you need no dirt over it in this stage of work. You add this when illustrate specific machine, in regard to the details visible on images. But definitely this look great :-ok
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on August 21, 2010, 01:55:53 PM: Quote from: No.1 on August 21, 2010, 07:35:39 AM
It look really great :-clap :-clap One point- it is true that engine cowling's look realistic but you need no dirt over it in this stage of work. You add this when illustrate specific machine, in regard to the details visible on images. But definitely this look great :-ok

Thanks No.1, that is something I was wondering about. So you weather each individual machine differently then? This is important because there were over 6100 halifaxes built. I am also finding it difficult working with a plane that is mostly black.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on August 21, 2010, 02:10:46 PM: This is it! You make it clear, put all elements in basic layout and then when create any specific plane you add or remove new layers, change colors and markings. Also you add separate layer with dirt.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on November 16, 2010, 05:30:29 PM: Some more progress. I had virtually no time to work on the profile in October, gun turrets are finished. Next up are the propellers then I can start applying markings weathering etc...

Guys, I have put the curtains in on the two windows below the cockpit, the Navigator and Wireless operator used them to hide the interior light. Please tell me what you think, I can't decide if I like them or not.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on November 16, 2010, 05:40:48 PM: This is great work mate!! About curtain- use it or not depend on publisher (for example some don't want pilots, moving propellers, extended landing gears...)

Wonderful :-flo
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Sall on November 16, 2010, 06:19:31 PM: :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on November 17, 2010, 03:42:38 PM: Quote from: No.1 on November 16, 2010, 05:40:48 PM
This is great work mate!! About curtain- use it or not depend on publisher (for example some don't want pilots, moving propellers, extended landing gears...)

Wonderful :-flo

Thanks No.1 and Sall, I have the curtains on a layer so I can tunr them on/off as needed. In some cases the ground crews painted over the windows as well so I'll create that option as well. I'm looking forward to finishing this one up and getting to the personalization stage.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on November 17, 2010, 03:51:49 PM: Just go ahead mate, this look great until now :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: santynus on November 21, 2010, 07:36:11 AM: great job Matt :-clap :-wave
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on December 22, 2010, 03:07:18 AM: Okay guys, here is the first one, I have aa few small mods left to do but close enough. Halifax LW170 from 424 RCAF Squadron, this plane survived the war and was transferred to 518 RAF Meteorolgical squadron. It ditched in the Irish Sea after the running out of fuel du to bad leak. I belong to a group trying to locate, raise her and restore her. The photo is of her right before she sank...

Please let me know what you think, and thanks for all the help and support on this project.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on December 22, 2010, 08:49:13 AM: Amazing work mate!!!!
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Post by: mattrcaf on December 22, 2010, 02:58:25 PM: Quote from: No.1 on December 22, 2010, 08:49:13 AM
Amazing work mate!!!!

Thanks No.1! This one only took 5 months, my first profile took me 2 years! I hope that the next profile I do will take even less time. But I have a lot of different variants to do on the Halifax still before I start on a Lancaster.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on December 22, 2010, 03:38:02 PM: So progress is obvious :-ok
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Sall on December 23, 2010, 03:00:40 PM: Really excellent work ! :-clap :-clap :-clap :-flo

:-wave
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on December 23, 2010, 03:17:28 PM: Quote from: Sall on December 23, 2010, 03:00:40 PM
Really excellent work ! :-clap :-clap :-clap :-flo

:-wave

Thank you guys.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Letipapa on December 25, 2010, 01:41:12 AM: Beautiful work Matt, outstanding for just a second work :-eek :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap just go on man :-ok
:-wave
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on January 02, 2011, 02:15:27 AM: Here is one of my cousin's aircraft with 431 squadron, he and his crew were lost without a trace July 4, 1944 after a raid to Hamburg. Their Halifax had the rare preston green ventral turret. Not known if it had nose art.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Sall on January 02, 2011, 02:19:51 AM: Very nice profile! :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on January 02, 2011, 02:24:45 AM: This one had Nose Art Native Indian was 431 Squadron's crest, lots of planes had an Indain motif painted on them.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on January 02, 2011, 08:26:45 AM: Matcaf- this is excellent works and personally I am happy that you have learn this skill on our forum :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Letipapa on January 03, 2011, 02:00:53 AM: Wonderful profiles :-obey :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on March 09, 2011, 03:30:52 AM: This one took forever, Mk V Series A.

A different wing and engines. This one is from 644 Squadron soon after D-Day, it was used to tow Hamilcar and Horsa gliders. Top turret removed, paratrooper hatch on the bottom and tow hook for glider. Nose art is of the British Airborne pegasus symbol.
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Second Air Force on March 09, 2011, 07:15:47 AM: All beautiful! :-ok The Halifax is another of my favorite four-engined machines.
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Post by: Profa on March 09, 2011, 07:36:32 AM: No matter how long it took, really great profile! :-ok
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: santynus on March 09, 2011, 08:19:22 AM: Nice set of color profiles Matt :-ok :-clap :-wave
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on March 09, 2011, 08:39:58 AM: Top work :-ok
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: mattrcaf on March 09, 2011, 03:04:27 PM: Thank you all for your comments and support! I found that last profile very challenging and frustrating.

I ended up doing the wing and several other parts in different files and I'm starting to wonder if that isn't the way
to go.

Fuselage one file, wing another, tail another etc.

Does anyone else work that way?

Cheers!
Matt
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: No.1 on March 09, 2011, 03:32:34 PM: Quote from: mattrcaf on March 09, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
I ended up doing the wing and several other parts in different files and I'm starting to wonder if that isn't the way
to go.Fuselage one file, wing another, tail another etc.

Does anyone else work that way?

I do and this is best way when you work on aircraft with separated large elements like the pylons, multi engines...
Title: Re: Halifax MkBIII
Post by: Sall on March 09, 2011, 03:34:15 PM: Great work mate! :-clap :-clap :-clap It looks awesome. :-eek :-clap :-clap :-clap