LetLetLet ~ Warplanes
Let Let Let - Warplanes => Warplane Art => Topic started by: No.1 on January 31, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
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My new project started- famous German WW2 fighter Messerschmitt Bf109G. This extract present starting point of the G-2 model which is excellent start point for development of all of the other versions.
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Great,can't wait to see this project finished...
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Yes, now I will follow this step by step, learning. :) :-wave
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Here we go with the basic panels styling and basic shadow over the fuselage shape.
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This profile is in the advancing shading now. Much more have to be made. A lot of work on the cockpit and the exhaust pipes. After that full work on the all stencils and general position of the national markings. After that will make camouflage pattern and then first one sample will be made.
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Replica in Berlin of G Type
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Me Bf 109G-2 from Aviation museum in Belgrade (MJV).
Your profile allready has a volumen :-ok:):-wave
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This is excellent add to this topic- thank you friends for this images :-clap :-ok
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I wonder, should I put all photo's of this Me 109G-2 in MJV Belgrade on separate new theme? :-think What do You say, everybody? :-think :-think
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This will be nice- go :-tri
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Here what we have now- whole profile is in the advanced shading and shape definition. I need some two hours to do that. This also include cockpit details and bolts. But something interesting to note to all of you who are illustrators or want to be that. On this airplane some panels are welded and there is one easy way to reproduce this. Make new layer above the layers with main shadows. name this layer somehow... like shadows [I name it varovi]. Give to this layer behavior and this have to be Difference. Give the style to this layer and style is Bevel and emboss [take attention about the global light settings during this action]. Take a brush, opacity set on some 40 to 50%, behavior Dissolve. Paint the lines and enjoy :-ok After that just set opacity of this layer and this is it :-blah :-crazy
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Well- we have all base finished. Just to rest and I hope that next day we start avalanche with profiles. Please note how the welding details look on the camouflaged plane :-wave
Are you ready for the good time???
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great work mate :-ok :-clap :-wave
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Thank you mate :-ok Need some help from you. Do you know anything about fonts used on Italian samples? Here it is one of the first I going to make.
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First release- Yugoslav post war G-2 :-wave
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Great job,were G-2 models used in JRV during Trieste conflict?
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Yes ;) I don't know which one is used but one of them force to land one large recce airplane, regarding to description look like B-36.
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I didn't know about force landing of an reccon plane,intresting story,well here is another question are you planing to do more JRV Gustav,maybe one captured by the Partizans?That one has interesting cammo and markings... :-wave
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Only one more sample ;) Bulk will be German samples.
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All wright boys, I'm oppening separate theme "Me Bf 109G-2 inAviat.Mus Belgrade", on "Borbene Letilice/ Combat Aircraft" :-wave
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New one- this is bf109G-0 W.Nr.14001 and call sign VJ+WA
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Version Bf109G-1 ;)
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One Italian and the other one flown by famous ace Nowotny :-wave
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nice and interesting subject No.1 :-wave :-clap
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Thank you :)) Now ne question- how about other users of this airplane? Is there any images of post war Arab samples or from South America?
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Here you are one sample operated in Finland :))
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And another one from this country :-ok
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One rare sample of the Bf109G-2/R4 captured in 1943 by British troops. It have two camera inside of the fuselage and behind the pilot.
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Excellent profile No.1 :-tri
You may have seen these, Bf-109 stencils markings;
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A shot of a Bf-109G2, this aircraft was captured by the British in Sicily 1943 it had served with 3/JG77 as no."6". It was give RAF serial no. RN228 and was used for test against allied aircraft.
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Amazing profile of Bf109G-2/R4,I've never seen this model so far. :-clap It is very interesting :-ok
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Thank you friends- more material is coming ;) mfg- you are really surprise me with this stencils. I know for this and used on this profiles but material you have post here look like extract from blueprints :-think
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One black ;)
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Is there more info about black G2?
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Very controversal about the color but it look like it was black on the top. I will try to get more data but not sure I could get it :(
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I was thinking about unit and period,perhaps a pilot :-wave
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Ooohh that :-razz this is machine from III Gruppe Jagdgeschwader 54 Grunherz, East Front.
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I thought it is JG 54,they always have most interesting color's on their planes specially during winter... :-wave
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You said winter :-cool
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It is great,thank's for doing this :-jump
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New one :-razz
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Sample deflected to Yugoslavia- possibly overall Soviet light gray color.
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Sorry mate it looks like I allways ask questions,but this is too interesting subject for me.Have you got more info for me,like where it deflected,perhaps some photo.
Any data about this plane,maybe one day I'll make this kit,it is most intresting,never seen someone made this kit.Is this AMT 11 color?
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I will try to make more time for reading tomorrow :-paper and find more info. Not sure about the Soviet designation of color but it look somehow like this one ;)
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Take your time don't do it now you have more important things to do I'll remind you when you finish all these profile's :-ok
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Samuraj77 have a look at this site,
http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/index-1024.php
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And try to save any image from that...
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mfg495 thx this is extraordinary link :-obey
And try to save any image from that...
No.1,I've just found the way to save these pictures :) Starting now
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What... :-think
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Just finished saving G-model,moving to F :-ok
Everything except Bf-109E is saved :-wave
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And try to save any image from that...
The images have a Gif image over them, so when you try and save them, you only save the Gif and not the base image. A number of websites use it. I'm looking at doing it for my recce imagery.
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mfg it is not a big protection,I am just saving this pics in Jpg using save page as...
Try something else...
P.s Airfix has presented Canberra on Nurberg fair
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P.s Airfix has presented Canberra on Nurberg fair
Thanks for the information, I will be keeping my eyes open for this :-ok :))
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Show is going on :-wave
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This one looks great,this is excellent work and good idea to put a photo here
Thanks :-clap
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Yes, photo is important to show you source and give you better position to give comments or critique. To regret not all images I have in scanned form :(
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I like to see good photo and this one is very good,also 3-view profiles are rare and on a photo you can see cammo patern (Modeler's point of view) :-red
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Oahhhh!, what a site, @mfg495, what a site!!! :-eek :-clap :-clap :-clap
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Next one from I :-joke
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:-eek great color profiles mate :-clap :-wave
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Grazie amico :-ok
More more and more ;)
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This VVS Bf look's great :-clap, I think I have seen somewhere picture of this G-2 :-clap
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Yes, on forum Burek ;) one interesting from East front :-wave
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very nice artwork No.1 :-ok :-clap very interesting the camouflage scheme :-tri
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very nice artwork No.1 :-ok :-clap very interesting the camouflage scheme :-tri
Yes very nice work, how did you know which colours to use for the camouflage :-think
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I have color image of one airplane and it show three colors. This scheme is posted some before. Also I know how this look in greyscale range. Image of this airplane show one more color and this one look somehow like the RLM79 brown so I have use it. This color were used in this unit for the camouflage.
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These colors were used on some F and early G model's by Jg 54. :-ok
I've seen this cammo and didn't plan to put any comment except :-clap
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These colors were used on some F and early G model's by Jg 54. :-ok
I've seen this cammo and didn't plan to put any comment except :-clap
A site all about Jg 54
http://www.jg54greenhearts.com/farrel.htm
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Web site is great and I have also note the same airplane as I do but illustrated different. Well- when this profile get published one day this will nice occasion for bitter argue about color used on it. I am ready and wait.
Another one from me :-wave
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great profile boss ;)
interesting the black stencil on the in the yellow place... is the first time I see this type of stencil in black color... :-think the anti-sand filter look great :-ok :)) :-wave
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This is very dark background and stencils over it. Here you are next- airplane from Udet unit flown by Kommodore of JG3 Hpt. Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke. This is one of his two airplane identically marked but one have no gun pod
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Hi Brits- what about this one :-razz
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Now I like that :-ok :-ok
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Excellent images :-eek :-tri Yours, isn't it :-clap Please tell us more about the events and planes show on them if you know.
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Excellent images :-eek :-tri Yours, isn't it :-clap Please tell us more about the events and planes show on them if you know.
Not a great deal of info, these came from another forum I'm a member of, anyway the top image was a 109F used by 80 Squadron coded 'EY'
The other image is a 109G with the RAF serial RN288
Other 109's in RAF colours :-
2 x 109 E (AE479 and DG200)
2 x 109 F (ES409 and NN644)
1x 109 G-2 (RN228)
2x 109G-6 (TP184 and VX101)
2x 109 G-14 (VD358 and VD364)
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All right ;)
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Here's one I do have Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6/U2 (TP814 c/n 412951).
Photographed at Air Fighting Development Unit, Duxford, England, UK, 1941-42.
The print was given to me by a friend who's father took the photo during his service career at Duxford.
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No1 Raf and Udet look great didn't know that Wilcke had two identically marked machine's
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great info and photos mfg
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Can you make a Schlageter machine of Maj. Handrick No.1? it had a top hat as insignia.
http://www.flughafen-boenninghardt.de/handrick-wb.jpg
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No problem but this is the E-3 version. Do you have image of whole aircraft?
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No problem but this is the E-3 version. Do you have image of whole aircraft?
I know its not G. Only make it if you dont have more important to do ;)
I should have a photo in a book but dont have it here right now.
Found this profile (http://www.lesbutler.ip3.co.uk/jg26/handrick.htm) someone has made of the machine.
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As soon as you find the image in book I will make one profile. Is this something personally important to you? To be honest, I never dare to ask you, but as well you are German did any of your cousin serve in Luftwaffe? As well mein tante ist Deutch and I know she don't like to mention WW2 at all.
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As soon as you find the image in book I will make one profile. Is this something personally important to you? To be honest, I never dare to ask you, but as well you are German did any of your cousin serve in Luftwaffe? As well mein tante ist Deutch and I know she don't like to mention WW2 at all.
Only my local historical and technical interest. As you might know an Airbase of JG26 was in Köln-Ostheim. This is 3 minutes from where i live now. I first heard about this in the Biographical book about Ritter von Schleich by Darren Whiteside. I know this is a sensitive topic in Germany and not a many people i know are interested in WWII aviation history for obvious reasons.
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No problem mate- I will make this profile to you and hope this will feel your personal interest. From me new profile is here :-wave
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This one looks great...
Keep up the good work :-ok
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Thank you. This one is too much clean for my taste.
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You are right it is clean,but who knows maybe the plane just entered the service.
Bf-109 was not ecology friendly plane :)
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Erich Hartmann airplane.
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An excellent collection No.1 :-ok
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And more and more coming :))
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Again version used by Fins :-clap
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German sample again :-wave
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:-clap :-clap :-clap I like this last one, little bit spoted, yeah! :-ok :-wave
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This have interesting free hand number on vertical.
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The last one looks very interesting :-ok
Could it be a late war machine :-think
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Yes, late war have that camouflage.
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And it seems that they have different cabin. There is no more small glass surfaces, but one large (after the front glass metal ram, when we look the profile) that goes from left to right all to the end of cabin. Same is on the other side.
Is this a characteristic of late war examples too? :-think
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This cockpit hood is introduced later. It is know as "Erla" hood by the manufacturer or "Galland" hood by the Adolph Galland who have propose this hood. Another one is the same manner.
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Interesting Gustav's you choose to illustrate.
Excellent choice :-ok
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To regret I have only port side, including of wings. No details about the other side and I was very hot to make it as scale kit...
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Sample operated by NAGr Bromberg.
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Just to finish this action and I will prepare special pack just for you and your site ;)
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:-eek :-jump ;)
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By the way- I see you have rework your site and must say that CSS based is much better and work very smooth. Very nice site as always :)
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Thank you No.1, I had a number of new pages hopefully to upload by the end of this month, but I'm away from for a number of days this and next week, so we will have to wait and see. I need to retire and then I could work fulltime :)) on the site, but a bit of time away. ;)
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I continue to boring you with new profiles...
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I enjoy being bored like this so please continue :-ok
Great profile and strange cammo but most intresting
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What to say. :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-tri
I just download this wonderfull things. No.1; You have all my respects and admiring. :-wave
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Thank you mate. One close up and I will make a break for some time. I will back... :-bat
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Your pilots are funny.. how do you make these? ;)
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You said funny... :( where I did go wrong? I paint them.
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I will back... :-bat
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I am back ;)
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Great you're back... :-ok
These are some great profiles... :-clap
Is the second one (Black 14) RLM 76 overall,black spinner (or RLM 70)
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RLM70. There is some info about the black spinner at the end of the war. For sure I know that late war machines had yellow or white propeller blade tips, like on the west airplanes.
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Wauchh! :-tri :-tri :-tri :-clap :-clap :-clap :-salut :-obey :-obey :-obey :-wave
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I am back ;)
You sure are :-eek Great profiles No.1 :-clap
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Thank you. Now one unknown, even with no numbers and unit insignia.
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Very nice subject for modelers :))
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You are right as always. :-ok
Really interesting subject :-clap
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I still don't want you to leave you alone... more material from me ;)
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Please continue not to leave us alone! :)
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You must rest sometime my friend :-/
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I think that maximum two weeks I will work on this and then I will leave it. From time to time maybe I will make some sample if get some interesting image. I did not count but I think that I have post some forty or more profile?
New one ;)
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It is a colossal work. :-obey But my friend, mfg495 is wright, take care and have a rest for a moment. Now, spring is here, maybe go out in nature or so.
I prepare to go in my secret place in woods some weekend, take breath, make food on fire, sleep, observing around me, listening...that is restoring me. ;)
But these profiles You did - gigantic marvelous work. Respect brother! :-obey :-salut :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
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You are doing a magnificent work.
A great profile encyclopedia of Bf-109G/K
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:-think Not bad an idea about the mini encyclopedia :-ok One more add for that project :-razz
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One more for today :-wall And only one pill against headache left :( :-roll
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Phuuuuu! Whuushhh! Ouch! :-tri
What to say No1, what to say? Its a top work :-obey :-clap :-clap :-clap
Just take care of Your health, please. Maybe rest a little at this moment will be clever? Antway thank You for such wonderful work, its like a present every time I see them. :-wave
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Thank you Letipapa :-razz
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One more for today :-wave
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One more late war sample ;)
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Again, another great profile No.1 :-ok
Have you seen this site http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_JG3.html :-think
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Interesting site for sure :)
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I have started basic topside works.
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Mfg495 :-clap :-clap :-clap, a huge site, and fantastic one. :-ok
No.1, so You started top views, ha? :-green I like that, I like that. Say no more, say no more! :-jump
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Few side views will be made and display before any top view become ready :-razz
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Situation with cockpit on top side is as follows....
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Situation with cockpit on top side is as follows....
Is that a photograph you have used :-think
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Off course but it is much cropped and painted over. The same like on the illustrating where we paint over drawings as base.
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Off course but it is much cropped and painted over. The same like on the illustrating where we paint over drawings as base.
Great skill my friend :-ok
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Great work :-clap
Can't wait to see those top side views...
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Forget to say- it is photo of my scale model used :))
New one. Note details- it look like that airplane belong to one unit and then was forwarded to another. In this way old number or sign are hand over painted and add number 21.
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White 21 is real masterpiece, You can see brush strokes done by over painting old marking :-clap :-clap
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Indeed!Yeaaah! No.1 :-obey :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
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Croatian sample :-wave
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One late war ace :-wave
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Nice work mate :-ok:-clap
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Which are the RLM colors for Croat G-10 (and the color of the Band-stripe)?
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RLM75, RLM 83 and RLM04 ;)
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I meant this band-stripe.
Could it be RLM 04 later overpainted with RLM 83?
Or is it something else...
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Well we have a problem there. This way of overpaint have used on several know Bf109, not only from this unit. In every way this color look like the RLM82 but no proof for this. Just comparation with other images.
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Late war machine and Erla built.
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Very interesting example :-clap
Great effort :-ok
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Another excellent example No.1 :-salut
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Shame on me :-red, bu what is Erla? :-think
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Manufacturer ;)
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Well friends.... this one will be the last in this block. If any situation change I will maybe make few more. Now I turn on some more difficult subjects. I have to make Vickers COW fighter, finish Nieuport XI fighter and start one rare late WW1 bomber.
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This was a great treat for all of us.I really enjoyed watching this project growing... :-ok
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No.1, thank you for this excellent series of profiles :-obey :-ok
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Thank you friend :))
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I was on a journey, so I am late, but: :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
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I think this will fit better here:
My photos are a bit messed up so i will add this link. Could not take it better:
http://airventure.de/tips_speyer/technik_museum_speyer_Pict0147.jpg
This is an original Me 109 G-4. It was crashed at the Eastern front and restored in italy for a business man.
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This is never ending story :)) New profile of Bf109, this one is Hungarian ;)
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This looks great mate! :-clap :-clap :-tri :-tri :-jump :-jump
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Slovakian machine ;)
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Why again are you doing illustrations of old projects.Of course the Bf-109 is never-ending story,but...Is this for a magazine,or...? :-think
Ps.Sample is great... :-clap :-clap We are accustomed to great drawings on your side. ;)
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Simply update...
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Excellent!!!
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Thank you ;)
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We talk about this one on our Group Builds of Bf109 and here is color profile
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Nice. ;)
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Splendid!
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Thank you ;)
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nice works Srecko...love it
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Thank you :))
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Are you going to build Schwarz 22? I like it a lot.
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This is option ;)
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Outstanding work.How about some Yugoslav messersmits?
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Yugoslav... all right, maybe one ;)
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Thanks :D
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The Hungarian G-10 is superb, my favourite so far :)
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Strange late war machine :-think
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What a beautiful camouflage! I love this plane. :-love :-love
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Yes, me too I love that plane!!!
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I will have just to do some detailing, some more mottling and this will be completed ;) This is made as fast preview :)
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Can't wait to see this finished!!!
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Today, I hope so
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Update with source image of particular aircraft, then color profile of the same and then few reference image for camouflage as well details.
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I still don't want you to leave you alone... more material from me ;)
Hi mate, :-salut :-salut
This plane was actually WNr 786316 and was a Bf 109 G-14AS. It has been named G-10 in my book, but it's inaccurate and the mistake had not been corrected before publication... because the book has been quickly published during the time I was at hospital... I wonder... :-wall
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/2012-010.jpg)
Cheers,
Jicehem :-wave :-wave
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One more late war sample ;)
There has been NO Bf 109 G-10AS at all... This plane is a Bf 109 G-14AS.
Jicehem :-wave :-wave
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All right, only to find file again and to correct details you have pointed. Thank for info update :)
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Forget to say- it is photo of my scale model used :))
New one. Note details- it look like that airplane belong to one unit and then was forwarded to another. In this way old number or sign are hand over painted and add number 21.
This plane was an Erla-Leipzig built Bf 109 G-14 and belonged to II./JG 52.
Jicehem
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After all of your input, I guess you should made new title about the Bf109G/K
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Croatian sample :-wave
This is a Bf 109 G-14AS of the 784000 to 786000 series of WNr.
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/2012-011.jpg)
(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/10/07/63/16/2012-012.jpg)
Jicehem
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I so love seeing these small details :-love! I've always been a bit concerned with building models of the Bf-109 because there is so much information about them I don't know..........
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The Fujimi 'J-series' of 1:48 Bf/Me109's (G-K) are good because they moulded every possible hatch/panel combination, so, if you have the right photographic evidence then you can (in theory) make a very accurate kit by filling in the hatch/panels and sanding smooth. They were horrendously expensive kits, but they have been re-released and are a bit cheaper now. I have their G-6, G-10, G-14 and K-4, which are, in my opinion, superb kits.
The Revell(Monogram) 1:48 G-10 is still a nice model though, and considerably cheaper, although it only has the large wing bulges for the wider tyres. You can make a K-4 from it though if you rescribe the radio access hatch in the new position, and fill in the port fuel filler hatch, and also move the antenna mast back.
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New sample ;) Bf190G-6/Rg from JG.300
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Great!!!
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-Our first 48-page book on Martin Mariner is now in print. Final release will be early May.
-Second book on Hawker Hunter is nearing completion. Hope it will be released in June/July.
-Third book will be on..........yes! Messerschmitt Me-109G and K! It will contain a very interesting section on the North American 'Na-109G-6'!!
See http://www.lanasta.com/index.php.
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Very nice profile Srecko! :-clap
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Great night camouflage, No.1, and the book will be a welcome addition, Nico!
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No 1. Really marvellous picture of Me 109G . Thank you No 1 :-salut
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You are welcome and more very interesting subjects coming ;)
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Updating this thread is handy as I have a Revell Bf-109G-10 coming in the mail. I might just find markings here for that build! :-ok
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Here you are Yugoslav post war no. 50. It have G-2 fuselage with G-6 wings.
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Very nice!
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Beautiful! :-clap
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Thank you :))
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Sleek!
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:)
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Again version used by Fins :-clap
This plane was E.Lyly`s own plane. It gained one win HLeLv 34 :-tri
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And another one from this country :-ok
Mt-232 gained five wins HLeLv 24 and 28 together :-salut
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Here you are one sample operated in Finland :))
MT-222 was HLeLv 24 pilot Ilmari Juutilainen`s own plane. This plane was made from BF 109 G-2 and BF 109G-6 parts.
For example wings of this plane was from G-6. :-ok
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My new project started- famous German WW2 fighter Messerschmitt Bf109G. This extract present starting point of the G-2 model which is excellent start point for development of all of the other versions.
Thanks for you No1 for bringing up this model. :-obey
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Thank you mate for that much attention :))
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Yes, tave! You have great information there!!!!!!!
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Yes, tave! You have great information there!!!!!!!
I am a Finn and I am interested in finnish air force and its history. And Ilmari Juutilainen is one of my idols. :-wave
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More coming :))
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While waiting it mate :-obey
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One German sample from Pik As
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One rare sample of the Bf109G-2/R4 captured in 1943 by British troops. It have two camera inside of the fuselage and behind the pilot.
Hi mate, :-salut :-salut :-salut
I'm sorry but it's a G-4/R2/Trop with only one camera (Rb 50/30) behind the pilot's seat. Her name was "Irmgard" painted under and forward the cockpit. Unit was 2. (H)/14. This plane was captured and repaired by the Americans. Pitot tube was replaced by American one. (In my book, ref. G-4/R4 was an error (non corrected because I was at the hospital at that time...)
Jicehem :-wave :-wave :-wave
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Here's one I do have Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6/U2 (TP814 c/n 412951).
Photographed at Air Fighting Development Unit, Duxford, England, UK, 1941-42.
Hi mate, :-salut :-salut :-salut
I'm sorry but the date given to you for this photgraph is not possible. This plane of JG 300 was captured on 21st July 1944, when her pilot, Lt Horst prenzel landed by error at Manston. With Skz NS+FE, she was originally "weiße 16" of I./JG 300. At this date most of the RV (Reichsluftverteidigung = Defence of the Reich) planes had a red band which appeared during November 1943. S/Ldr Falk flew her to Farnborough on 26 july 1944. She crashed during take-off on 23rd November 1944 and was damaged beyond repair...
Cheers,
Jicehem :-wave :-wave :-wave
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This have interesting free hand number on vertical.
WNr 166224 = Bf 109 G-6, not a G-14. This plane was captured by American troops in August 1944 in France at Nogent-le-Roy.
Jicehem
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New sample ;) Bf190G-6/Rg from JG.300
Bf 109 G-6/R6
Jicehem :-wave :-wave :-wave
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Huuuhhhh.... now I have to trace back all files again :(
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Sketch for book
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Thank you friends, here you are update :))
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G 14?
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Standard G-6. On the right side will be technical data for G-6 so I decide to paint this version ;)
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Next update from this morning :)
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Waouw!
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How about this one :))
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Reconnaissance machine? Very nice scheme whatever the version.
Scott
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Possibly, I hope our friend Jicehen could give more light to this subject
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I based this possibility on the underwing fuel tanks being associated with the recce version. I may be imagining it, but there seems to be a small "something" under the fuselage right aft of the wing on the photo?
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No specific idea but this need to be clean up
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Great artwork job!! I see a interesting color combination in this machine. I like this kind of camouflage, so it you don't have any problem, I will do it soon. Not, right now, I have some (ok, ok, several) building projects on the bench...
I am planning to do a complete collection of Bf-109 from A-Z versions........
Thanks to share!!
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Thank you for comment mate :) I must make some correction so this should be finished art but I wait for comments :))
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It looks good with the camera fairing. Hopefully Jicehem can clear up my speculation!
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I found this in my Mushroom's Bf-109G copy. As I see it is a Bf-109G4/R4 version, with external 300 liters tanks (underwing) and one Rb50/30 Camera. One thing I realize it is tailwheel cover in -G4 version, I don't see change on this in photo reference that you have. In your profile it is removed, so I don't know if you want to make this change.
Here, what I have..
(http://www.ipmsmexico.com/guillermo/BF109G4R4-1.png)
(http://www.ipmsmexico.com/guillermo/BF109G4R4-2.png)
(http://www.ipmsmexico.com/guillermo/BF109G4R4-3.png)
(http://www.ipmsmexico.com/guillermo/BF109G4R4-4.png)
I hope helps you......
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My biggest issue is whether I actually can see the camera fairing on the belly in that photo. It's too hard to tell for sure if there is and I might be totally wrong about the recce idea. I'm relying on memory but this could be a G-2/R2 that's been field modified for the twin tanks. I can't wait to hear from others on this!
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Good detail about the tail wheel- this will be updated :)
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Here it is, not the same version but details are the same. It is visible on source image but I have somehow skip this :(
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Great! :-clap :-ok
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In this moment I work on Revi gunsight :-razz
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Hi mates,
I was wondering the same Second Air Force, but two things that confirm a -G4 version is fixed tail wheel with dust cover, and wheel well faired over. G2 version has retractable tail wheel system.
So, I think G4 is the subject, but we wait for more comments about it!!
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Very possible it is G-4/R3 but who knows. To be honest this image was so attractive so I could not resist not to make this sample. And here you are once again puzzling late war machine :-wall
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Hi mates,
I was wondering the same Second Air Force, but two things that confirm a -G4 version is fixed tail wheel with dust cover, and wheel well faired over. G2 version has retractable tail wheel system.
So, I think G4 is the subject, but we wait for more comments about it!!
Yes, I agree with you on this, Memitus. At first glance I was looking at the tailwheel opening and it looked almost like it may not have had a fairing over it. After looking again I noticed the boot over the strut. It just proves I should look harder before making comments! :-blah :-blah :-blah
That unmarked airplane is really something to see, No.1. I wonder why no insignia...... :-think
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I know as much as you :( Late war machines are complex one, that's maybe the reason I like them
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Right now I noted that I make mistake and put Revi work here... my deep apologize :(
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Unknown with number seven... :-think
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Very good, mate :-ok :-ok :-ok
It's a night fighter of JG 300. Maybe "grüne 7", maybe "rote 7"... or, as told in a German magazine, it was "gelbe 7" of 3. Staffel at Bonn-Hangelar during 1943. Another one of the same unit is known : "gelbe 15" with almost the same camo scheme.
Jicehem
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Good that you identified unit :) At least we have something!
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Good that you identified unit :) At least we have something!
I've modified my post.
Jicehem
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In this way I will change number color and this is complete. Publication design is almost complete, now remain couple of days of hard detailing :)
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Update on this subject
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Little more progress
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I paint pilot and add more details and shadows :)
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Good! :-clap
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Thank you friends :)
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I have developed a rather strong headache this evening looking at photos and built models of Bf-109G-10 White 11, Rosemarie. I've got an idea to build this machine, but the issue I am having is the Luftflotte 4 yellow identification markings. From the original photo I've seen it appears to me (my opinion, only) that the rudder is yellow but no cowling band (as shown on most models) is evident. Any help on this would be appreciated. I've got your profile, No.1, and find this to be very near the same idea that I have with only the rudder being different.
Thanks in advance!
Scott
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I can not find my self in bulk of images I have, can you post images so it would be more easy to find solution. I remember that I have some problem to do it when I start work on color profile
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New update :))
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Nice. ;)
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Again version used by Fins :-clap
Again version used by Fins :-clap
This "Mersu" was E. Lyly`s plane. Painting is totally wrong in this picture No:1 Sorry. If you have a possibility to look a book " Suomen ilmavoimien historia 6B, Messershmith Bf 109 G-6", you can see the right colouring:) T: Tave (June 1944)
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Can you scan image mate? Maybe different time then my sample?
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Can you scan image mate? Maybe different time then my sample?
Hello mate! this is a link where are some pictures.http://asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/Bf-109G-FAF-HLeLv34.1-MT-451-Luukkanen.html and Lyly and Ilmari Juutilainen . I'm trying to scanned :-ok :-salut RLM 74/75/76
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All right, I am waiting for scan :)
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All right, I am waiting for scan :)
Ok mate :-razz
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Very possible it is G-4/R3 but who knows. To be honest this image was so attractive so I could not resist not to make this sample. And here you are once again puzzling late war machine :-wall
I was searching the web this morning over coffee and found a profile of one of the Versuchs machines of the K and its paint scheme was very similar to this two-tone grey one. I'll try to find it back (I didn't save it....) and offer it up for thought.
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Here is the web address of the profile--I found it back! http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/display.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=ergebnis_suche&fotonummer=7023
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New one, recce version, interesting is pipe on lower fuselage protruding to the side cross
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Very nice !
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Thanks :))
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One update, also recce version :))
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Great job mate !
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Thanks :))