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Title: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 12, 2011, 06:42:36 PM
Hi all :)
I just "finish" to made a little restailing on my old Bf109E-4...  :-green change shadow and light and addeed some detail...  :-crazy redraw maingear and tire...
 :-think meyby the best ting  is redraw all completely... :-eek but I'm too lazy...  :-roll
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 12, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
I like it, Bf109 is never ending story :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 12, 2011, 07:15:37 PM
Very nice... :-clap :-clap
I like the combination of colors! :-flo
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: mattrcaf on January 13, 2011, 01:57:58 AM
Hi all :)
I just "finish" to made a little restailing on my old Bf109E-4...  :-green change shadow and light and addeed some detail...  :-crazy redraw maingear and tire...
 :-think meyby the best ting  is redraw all completely... :-eek but I'm too lazy...  :-roll
cheers  :-wave

It looks good Santynus, the redrawn landing gear looks much better. You don't need to start over it looks
really good.

Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 14, 2011, 08:47:30 PM
Thank you friends :)
today I made a new one and adjusted other details...
It's a Bf.109E-4 Royal Romanian Air Force flown by Flotila I, eastern front 1942
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 14, 2011, 08:50:56 PM
 Nice,nice! :-clap :-clap :-clap :-love :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: mattrcaf on January 15, 2011, 02:03:57 AM
Thank you friends :)
today I made a new one and adjusted other details...
It's a Bf.109E-4 Royal Romanian Air Force flown by Flotila I, eastern front 1942
cheers  :-wave

That looks reaaly good!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 15, 2011, 07:47:17 AM
Nice Romanian machine :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 16, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
Thank you friends :)
I just finish this new Bf109E-4 flown by the II/LG2 St. Omer France Luftflotte 2. Shot down 8th October, 1940
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 16, 2011, 01:09:21 PM
Very fine mottling on fuselage :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 16, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
thank you for your comment No.1 :)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 16, 2011, 11:08:14 PM
 I like it very much! :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 17, 2011, 05:18:31 PM
thank you Sall  :) :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 17, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
Hi all  :)
onother one It's a Bf.109E-4B flown by 8/SKG.210 El Daba, Egipt, October 1942  :-blah
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 18, 2011, 10:25:19 AM
this is my first Emil, I attach the old and new profile... I hope the restailed version looking better...  :-green
Bf.109E-4-Trop flown by I/JG27 North Africa 1941
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 18, 2011, 11:38:10 AM
Looks much better! :-clap :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 18, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
Great upgrade of your skill mate :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 19, 2011, 07:53:47 PM
Tank you Sall & No.1 for your comment  :-red
after one days&night in hospital... :( I'm return at home and finish another Emil...  :-green
It's a Bf.109E-7 trop flow by Leutnant Werner Schroer (/JG27, Ain El Gazala Libya April 1942
cheers :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
another Bf.109E-7
It's a Bf.109E-7 Trop flown by Obereutnant Ludwig Franzisket Gruppen-Adjuyant I/JG27, Ain El Gazala, Libya, October 1941
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 20, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
This topic really warming up :))
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 20, 2011, 01:20:01 PM
Beautiful work mate :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 02:06:51 PM
Thank you No.1 & Sall :)
I just finish another Bf.109E-7
It's a Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya, June 1941
Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
Another Bf.109E-4 With a interesting camo scheme...  :))
It's a Bf.109E4 Flown By the Staffelkapitan 3.JG53 Germany, Spring 1940
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 20, 2011, 03:57:27 PM
I like this one, very good surface work :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 04:04:24 PM
thank you No.1 for your comment :) :-red :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 09:55:27 PM
Other two color profile, this time Bf109E-3  :-green

1) Bf.109E-3 flown by 6/JG26 Marquise France Luftflotte 2,1940

2) Bf.109E-3 flown by Captain Miha Klavora 104th squadron, 32th Group, 6th FightersRegiment, Royal Yugoslav Air Force, April 1941

Cheers :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 20, 2011, 10:00:40 PM
Very nice that you have included various operators :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 20, 2011, 10:27:07 PM
Thank you No.1  :)
I'm not sure about the Royal Yugoslav Air Force color scheme...  :-think I have used RLM71 (upper surface), RLM65 (lower surface) and RLM70 (spinner&prop) do you know if is correct?  :-help I want to be sure about that, because I found other interesting RYAF Bf109E-3 to make...  ;)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 20, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
Nothing precise can be said as well they have been delivered in batch but what you have done look fine.
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 21, 2011, 11:19:34 AM
Very nice work mate. :-clap :-clap
I like that you have include Yugoslav machine,and because it did not last Yugoslavian color profile. :-tri :-tri :-flo :-flo
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 21, 2011, 03:34:51 PM
Thank you Sall :) I made for you another RYAF Bf.109E3 ;)
It's the Bf.109E-3 flown by Major Dragutina Zivanovic, 101th squadron, 31th Group, 6th Fighters Regiment, Royal Yugoslav Air Force, Veliki Radinci (Serbia) April 1940

I found new source about the RYAF Bf109E3 color scheme... RLM70 (upper surface), RLM65 (lower surface)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 21, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
Nice one :-clap :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 22, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
I just completed another Bf109E...  :-green
This time is a Bf.109E-1 flown By 2./Igr 101 Fürstenwalde (District of Brandenburg), Germany August 1939
Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 22, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
another interisting camo scheme...
it's a Bf.109E-3 Flown by The Geschwarder Adjutant of stab ./JG53 Wiesbsden-Erbenheim, early 1940
cheers :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 22, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
You can make book ;))
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 22, 2011, 08:00:46 PM
You can make book ;))

maybe someday I will ;)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 23, 2011, 05:16:45 PM
new one  :-green I'm not sure about the real camo scheme...  :-think I made 2 different options...
It's A Bf.109E-1 4./JG52 Flown by Gefr.Erich Mummert shotdown on Detling aerodome 30 september 1940
Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 23, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
Any images of this machine?
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 23, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
Yes, I made the first from the SAM - Modellers Datafile n°009 - The Messerschmitt Bf109 Prototype to 'E', for the second I use Classic Colours - Jagdwaffe - Vol 2 sec 3 - Battle Of Britain Phase Three Septempber-Octber 1940...
I think the second It's more correct than first...
by the way I made the correct 4./JG52 crest from photos...
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 29, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
these are all the pictures I have of two white
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 29, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
other two new Bf.109E profiles

1) Bf.109E-1 Flown By 6./JG26 Dussendorf Germany Summer 1939

2) Bf.109E-3 Flown By Leutnat Werner Ursinus, 2.J/88 Legion Condor, Spain spring 1939

Cheers :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 30, 2011, 10:18:30 AM
Nice,nice,nice... :-clap :-clap
I really like this machine,although i like jet birds.
You've done a great job! :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 30, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
Excellent subject as well texture :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 30, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
thank you Sall&No.1 for you comments  :-red :))
I just made some little update about details and shadow on my last E-3 I hope it looking better  :-green :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 06, 2011, 12:30:08 PM
Hi all :)
This week I made 3 new Bf109E-3 and ohter little update too :-green

1) Bf.109E-3 11 white, flown by 51th Group, 6th Fighters Regiment, Royal Yugoslav Air Force, Zemun April 1940
2) Bf.109E-3 L-10 Black flown by Second Lieutenant Aleksic Miodrag, 142th squadron, 32th Group, 6th Fighters Regiment, Royal Yugoslav Air Force, Prnjavor April 1940
3) Bf.109E-3 15 Red flown by piloted by squadron commander Hptm. Wilhelm Balthasar, winter 1939

Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on February 06, 2011, 01:00:53 PM
Great work and I am waiting for more!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: draken35 on February 06, 2011, 09:10:23 PM
Very nice work...
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 06, 2011, 10:42:46 PM
thank you No.1 & draken35 :-red :)  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on February 08, 2011, 09:54:59 AM
Beautiful profils mate!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 11, 2011, 10:38:11 AM
thank you Sall  :)) :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 20, 2011, 02:34:15 PM
Hi all :)
I just finish another Bf109E-3 flown by 2./JG 77 Breslau-Schöngarten, Germany, July 1939
I made little update on the draw too...
cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on February 20, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
Another great art mate :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 20, 2011, 03:05:48 PM
Thank you Srecko  :-red :)) :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on February 20, 2011, 03:34:04 PM
Great mate! Very nice profile. :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: draken35 on February 20, 2011, 04:29:34 PM
Splendid!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Second Air Force on February 20, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
Bravo!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on February 20, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
thank you friends for your comments  :-red :) :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 09, 2011, 04:16:44 PM
New Upgrade...  :-green
added new detail, change some shadow&light...  :-blah

another Bf109E-1 flown by Pilot Uffz. Albrecht Griener of 5./JG52, crash-landed in Northern France in May 1940

cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 09, 2011, 04:18:05 PM
Excellent work mate :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 09, 2011, 04:34:46 PM
Great sample mate!Good work! :-clap :-clap :-love :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: samuraj77 on March 11, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
Splendid  :-love
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 11, 2011, 09:11:49 PM
thank you for your comments friends  :-red :))

I made a new great upgrade...  :-green changed all the nose, propeller and spinner, canopy and other little detail...  :-blah
I update some light and shadow too...  :-wall

cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 11, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Profa on March 12, 2011, 12:05:38 AM
beautiful 'black 13' :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 12, 2011, 12:54:48 AM
 :-ok :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 12, 2011, 12:52:20 PM
thank you guys :)

other little update...  :-green

I've just finish another E-1 flown by Feldwebel Ernest Arnold of 3./JG27,crash-landed and captured at Westwood Court, Faversham, Kent, on 30th August 1940.

Cheers
Santino
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 12, 2011, 01:01:45 PM
Once more,nice sample mate! :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 12, 2011, 02:13:07 PM
Detail of scissors is great!!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 12, 2011, 07:15:09 PM
Detail of scissors is great!!

thank you Srecko :)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: draken35 on March 12, 2011, 09:11:35 PM
 :-ok :-ok :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 12, 2011, 09:22:05 PM
Thank you for close up :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 13, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
new little upgrade...  :-green about some detail and shadows :-wall
This time I made a Bf.109E-3 flown by 1./JG2, France May 1940  :-blah

Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 13, 2011, 08:22:11 PM
Wonderful collection of profiles!!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 13, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
One more great profil!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Jicehem on March 14, 2011, 07:44:01 AM
It's a Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya, June 1941

Hi Santynus,  :-salut :-salut

From a few color photos (at least one published by Dr. Prien) the heart was... black.
Your work is amazing and although the Bf 109 E is not the one version I prefer, I like your profiles.  :-obey :-obey  :-ok

Cheers,

Jicéhem  :-wave :-wave :-wave :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 17, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Thank you friend for your comment :)

Thank you Jicehem for your info about the "Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya, June 1941"
if you can, could you please post your photos abot this subject, (my reference is a color profile of the book [Warpaint Special n°02] - Bf109, Page 16)

I made a new Bf.109E-3 flown by 6./JG52 Based at Speyer, Germany, in April 1940.

Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 17, 2011, 12:25:50 PM
Great! :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Second Air Force on March 17, 2011, 04:28:19 PM
That eagle marking gives it a certain "look" that I really find appealing.
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Jicehem on March 17, 2011, 05:39:17 PM
Thank you Jicehem for your info about the "Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya, June 1941"
if you can, could you please post your photos abot this subject, (my reference is a color profile of the book [Warpaint Special n°02] - Bf109, Page 16)

Hi Santynus,  :-salut :-salut

Here is the proof. I can't post the entire photo because it's copyrighted...

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/10/07/63/16/2011-011.jpg)

Cheers,

Jicéhem   :-wave :-wave :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2011, 05:43:54 PM
Excellent image extract and I am glad that you care about the rights :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 18, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
thank you so much Jicéhem for the photos  :)
I found others color profile with black hart on REVI magazine N°55, :-think but on the book Classic Colours - Luftwaffe Colours - Jagdwaffe Vol 3 Sect 3 - War Over The Desert (North Africa June 1940-June 1942) and on other book the hart it's red...   :-wall

Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Jicehem on March 18, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
but on the book Classic Colours - Luftwaffe Colours - Jagdwaffe Vol 3 Sect 3 - War Over The Desert (North Africa June 1940-June 1942) and on other book the hart it's red...   :-wall

Hi Santynus,  :-salut :-salut :-salut
 
Yes, I know. But every searcher thought the heart was red because they imagined that black and white photos were made on ortho films with which the rendering of red is black on the prints. They ignored that the German photographers had only panchro films (Agfa, Orwo). Knowing that fact, the question arose to know if the heart was really red or black. Until the day when Dr Prien discovered those color photos... showing the heart was actually black...
In some books where the heart is colored red there are two options : the book has been published before the photos were known or the author doesn't know the truth...

Cheers,

Jicéhem  :-wave :-wave :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 19, 2011, 02:12:11 PM
Thank you Jicéhem for your explanation, now everything is clear   :)

I upgrade my old Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya  :-green :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on March 19, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
I like this one much,much...! :-love :)) :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Second Air Force on March 19, 2011, 04:13:44 PM
I am right now reading JG 26 Top Guns of the Luftwaffe by Donald Caldwell and just finished the chapter on 7 Staffel's adventures in the Mediterranean. This brings a question--does anyone here have a photo or line drawing of Joachim Muncheberg's airplane from this time?

And a second question--how in the *$&#@_*! can I type an umlaut on my silly American keyboard!? :-kr I've looked all over but can't make it appear when I type replies. I'm 94% of German ancestry and I'm embarrassed that my typing doesn't reflect it........... :-red My German teacher and my uncles and aunts who tried to teach me the language are probably rolling in their graves now.

Keep up the great artwork and information!
Scott
 
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 19, 2011, 04:38:09 PM
Hi Scott :)
you can find the Joachim Muncheberg's airplan to this link, but the emblem of the 7th Staffel, is not correct,  :-/ it will be one of my future works  :-green :-wave

http://warandgame.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/2_49.jpg

about umlaut this is the ASCII sequence

ä = ALT + 132
ü = ALT + 129
ö = ALT + 148
Ä = ALT + 142
Ü = ALT + 154
Ö = ALT + 153
ß = ALT + 225
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on March 19, 2011, 05:06:34 PM
other link about Joachim Muncheberg

http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/foto/munche2.jpg

http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/foto/munche1.jpg

https://www.aviationillustration.com/shop/images/Bf.109.E.45.jpg

http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/foto/munche3.jpg

cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Second Air Force on March 19, 2011, 06:45:34 PM
Thank you for the images. I always find it enjoyable to see airmen and the dogs that invariably found their way into the armed forces! I believe I just read about the wreath presentation in the book.

I still wonder about the black-versus-red heart situation in the 7th Staffel. They were the Red Hearts, after all, making it easy to assume the heart on the airplane would be red also. The color photo certainly shows it in black but it confuses me nonetheless. If I ever get around to building Muncheberg's ship I will make it black.

I haven't figured out the umlaut even with your help. I suspect my computer has a problem--the keyboard operator. :-think
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on April 03, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
Hi all  :)
today I made other two new Emil...  :-green

1) Bf.109E-3 flown by Oblt. Hans Schmoller-Haldy, 3.J/88 Legion Condor, Spain spring 1939
2) Bf.109E-4 of 9./JG26, based at Caffiers. France August 1940

Cheers  :-wave

Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on April 03, 2011, 03:34:32 PM
Niiceeee! :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on April 03, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
thank you Sall  :) :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on April 03, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
Nice work mate, nice to see your art is growing ;)
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 06, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
others new Emil... :-green :-wave
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: No.1 on January 06, 2012, 10:07:16 PM
Excellent mate but yellow 7 is most interesting for me :-ok
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Sall on January 06, 2012, 11:11:09 PM
Great works mate!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: Second Air Force on January 07, 2012, 07:17:40 AM
Does anyone know if Yellow 7 ever had the swastika removed like the airplanes of the Stab?

Great profiles as always!
Title: Re: a little restailing...
Post by: santynus on January 11, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
thank you friends  :) :-wave