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Let Let Let Utility => Forums Works => Topic started by: No.1 on April 09, 2008, 12:12:37 PM

Title: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 09, 2008, 12:12:37 PM
Greetings all,

You have noted last months that we have made great improvements in the forum design and application scripts. Result is the better running place with friendlier feature then before. Most important is the upgrade of the whole forum script into the latest version.

Basic web site is next. In following weeks or months Let Let Let Warplanes will be down. I donít know when but I am site that this will be happen. It will be reborn will full new features and options. But this will be not be only graphical and script changes. First at all this will be active web site with few authors and editors there. All of you who are work on article will get your portfolio page. Tag system will be completely new and this will give result in the better search the site. Also I prepare to include complete new feature on the gallery of images as well we will deployed here a thousand of images from museums and air shows.

What is really new is the general policy- no free support for any publications any more. Me and some of you here, on my advice, have been supported few magazines article and book project. In reward we did not get thank you and no sample of publications. Now everything will be offer for sale- images and profiles at average world price. No excuse for anyone! If somebody have thousand of dollars or Euros to pay printing of publication I am sure that he or she could pay few hundred for images and art. But I will continue to give free permission to use material from web site on other sites and support basic internet idea of spreading knowledge.

And something where I really need you- regarding to the detailed info from the web tracking we have a lot of visitors from France, Germany and Netherlands. After that coming Italy, Czech Republic and so onÖ Is it possible to get language support for the article? Is there any member who could give some time and translate articles from Category of Files and Models into the at first line French, German and Dutch language? This will be great burst for the site!

Let me hear what you think  :-think  :-ok
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on April 09, 2008, 01:05:17 PM
These are some great ideas, changes are good from time to time I personally like the new forum look and layout.
Gallery improvements should perhaps include some more photos visible for visitors and by my opinion could attract even more visitors. Photos should surely be protected with some signature of the author and LLL mark and not in full resolution.
Idea for multi-language is great and I hope it will work.
Well these are some of my observations and I hope you'll find them constructive...   
I am sure that LLL will look even better and it will surely become "the Hot Spot" for any aviation enthusiast if it isn't already.  :-tri
 :-wave
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Skyraider3D on April 09, 2008, 01:16:13 PM
Thanks for the update and good luck with the changes.

Regarding translations, I personally don't think there's any need for translations to Dutch. Almost everyone in Holland speaks English at a pretty decent level (as hardy anybody else speaks Dutch) :)

Personally I would always read the original English version of an article, even if there was a Dutch translation (I am Dutch for those who don't know). Dutch isn't a great language for technical terminology I find (ship builders will disagree!), and nothing is worse than having all well-known English terminology literally translated! :))  So in all, in my opinion effort spent on translating to Dutch is better spent on other improvements.

Just my 2 Euro cents of course!  :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on April 09, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
Again No.1, thanks for keeping us informed

As samuraj77 states sounds like a good idea. I like the idea of a gallery area, I have seen some sites were they automatically add a water mark to each image uploaded.
I'm sorry that I cannot help with translating, its taken me nearly 50 years to understand English.  ;) and I'm still working on that.
Looking forward to the rebirth of LetLetLet  :-ok

Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 09, 2008, 02:45:48 PM
Thank you friends- your comments are welcome.

Script for the galley will include watermark as well many other options. One of the option is to open images in the same window. So we need no language translations? All right. We will keep it in English only.

General outline of the LLL will be like this but many of changes still wait to be considered. Stay in touch and hope the rest will give their valuable input.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on April 09, 2008, 04:17:09 PM
Nice idea with the new design. I must agree for the language. Most German people can understand at least english, except maybe some people of the older generation 60+ If i ever write something i can make it dual english/German should not be a problem.
How many spanish visitor you have? that would make maybe more sense to translate it. Some script to watermark photos would be a nice addition so we could publish more of our own collection not only in the forum.  :-clap

mfG
Wingman
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 09, 2008, 04:35:26 PM
Even now we can add an watermark but this will be automated. You have nice understand me about the main point and some feature and policy will bring out great number of archive images on the light.

Yes- we have a lot of visitor from Spain but not sure that we can arrange any to give language support. So in this way this will stay as it is, I think.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: PV Chairman on April 09, 2008, 11:55:54 PM
Hello,

Well I guess these changes will be helpful, but I am sad by the comments -

"Me and some of you here, on my advice, have been supported few magazines article and book project. In reward we did not get thank you and no sample of publications."

Well the reason why you did not get a copy of my Mustang book is because it is not published yet!! so how can I send it to you? In it you will be credited and thanked very much, and of course - as agreed - you will get a copy when it is published, but I cannot send it before publication! That would be physically impossible.

Anyway you say -

"No excuse for anyone!"

Oh dear!!

Best wishes,

PV Chairman.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 10, 2008, 12:29:25 AM
PV Chairman- I did not talk about you. You are4 the member here and this is other thing. Talk about many others who are not related at all with site and forum but did get a lot of material.

Idea of forum is to support members and help in their search. So this will not change. All clear now ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: javier_planells on April 10, 2008, 04:25:15 AM
Hi guys,

I'm 100% that changes will make this site even better, so No.1, go for it. It'll be sad not to enter the site for a while but it'll be ok. After all, I never had a most heartly welcome on a forum than here, and I really appreciated that.

I won't go into detail about information, photos ans stuff given to authors but here in Argentina it is pretty common for such things to happen. And many times there is a fellow modeler involved in that "ripping off" of images kindly lent. I guess some people never learn...

Good luck with LLL's new facade, and I'll be around if anyone needs some help, my e-mail is in my profile.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Letipapa on April 10, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Just proceed with changes, it is ok, I support. Also, it will be nice if wattermark of LLL will automaticly protect our photos and works, and if somebody (out of our party) wants to use this in publication etc, that one should pay.
I hope on new site design the texst could be seen whole, because on this old one a letter or two at rught end, I allways can't read.
I like how new design looks, its OK.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: verner on April 13, 2008, 02:12:52 AM
You have a great site. If you think it needs changes, then so be it. I'm with you.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 13, 2008, 01:50:03 PM
Friends- this is it! As soon I get time I will start total rebuild. This will be hard and will need time.

Thank you all :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Leo on April 15, 2008, 05:23:50 PM
 :-wise

This is a great website.  I am continually surprised by the depth and breadth of knowledge seen here.  No.! is a multi talented individual.  I back him 100%.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Nico Braas on April 21, 2008, 09:41:20 PM
Looking forward to see the new layout! As already said earlier by one of our Dutch members: there is no need to translate text into Dutch (and I am also Dutch!).
I would prefer English as basic language!
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 21, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
Thank you Leo and Nico. Main reason why I have consider translation is the fact that I have noted on server that there at least some 40 to hundred of person who translate web pages. I have seen yesterday that some pages was translated into the French, German, Russian and Spanish. But in meantime I have find integration solution that this could be translation direct online. if I make it good you will have button on the right lower side and you could translate page into the many languages via Google translators service.

I still don't start with the down action as well my friend who have direct access to the server are not possible to take any time and manage database for the Let Let Let. As soon as possible this will be done and there we will need few months to fully rebuilt it. In this time I will give full test and make all possible script modification to met our needs and requirements.

Thank you friends  :-razz
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 24, 2008, 09:48:51 PM
Few days left...
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 26, 2008, 09:42:56 AM
All right- we have action now. Let Let Let is down. In one day will start upgrade to the new system. I would like to ask following members to provide me its personal images and short portfolio:

Nico Braas
Mick Gladwin
Santo Russo
Killian Wenman
Darko Mladenovic
Robert Hodgson

Please send me this on the email address you have. If any addition info you need please let me know. In portfolio please state some general notes like where are you from, age, occupation and the rest leave to your connection with aviation. It is more then recommend to put your web site and published material inside.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 28, 2008, 01:45:56 PM
Here you are sample how the article look like and feature:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/04/28/fiat-g50-history/
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 29, 2008, 11:52:41 PM
Work is in progress and I have just upload one large modeling article. Thanks to the many of new features this is sample how the article should look like:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/04/29/yak-1b-148-eduard/
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on April 30, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
looking good  :-ok
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 07:56:13 AM
Please tell me which browser you are using? I note some display problems with thumbnail when view from Firefox.

Thank you ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 10:34:37 AM
Just published updated article about Dornier Do17K:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/04/30/dornier-do17k-history/
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on April 30, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
I use firefox and I am experiencing those problems...
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 12:45:19 PM
So I have to check out with the Gallery author or to report this to Firefox crew...
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on April 30, 2008, 12:48:00 PM
It looks like this in my Firefox 2.0.0.14
If that is what you guys mean.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on April 30, 2008, 12:55:35 PM
Same with me Wingman
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
Yes- this is it. You can see images but not thumbnails. How about Explorer? Did any use this browser, this will be important to see as well over 80% of visitors use this browser.

Problems...
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on April 30, 2008, 01:05:13 PM
To tell you the truth I discovered this problem when I tried to use explorer...
Explorer works fine thumbnails are visible...
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 01:13:16 PM
All right- will talk with German gentleman who have make gallery script and see what we can do here. I am sure that this would not cause problem as well curiosity will win and visitors will open this grey blocks... but better to fix this in close future.

Well- when I start this web site there was many problems and this is the same on this very start. Will see what we will get in year or two.

Friends- I am proud to say that Let let Let is really international and I am glad to have you here :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on April 30, 2008, 01:16:45 PM
I am proud to be here  :-ok
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on April 30, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
I am proud to be here  :-ok

I'm right with you on that statement samuraj77  :-salut
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
Thank you friends. During all conversations here I have made some change in php file for this forum and now we have more cleaner footer there. There was four images, two left and two rights, and they are no anymore.

I will continue to upload files and hope in meantime will get more idea. You know well that there is much of work on customization of the site but this will be handle with care in some time.

 :-wave  :-ok  :-tri
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on April 30, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Looks in MSIE 7
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on April 30, 2008, 04:24:28 PM
This is good view- thank you for attention mate :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 02, 2008, 01:22:08 PM
I would like to ask you for advice. There is two more categories to be add. One is Gallery with the selection of my digital and oil art and the other will be with archive images. So how to name this with archive images? It could not be called archive as well the site have Archive where is stored data of all articles from particular period. Maybe some name like... Collection, Memorabilia... I don't know. Any idea?

Also one more detail- in this archive images section I will upload most of my archive images as well images from Nico Braas collection. Did any of you would like to do the same with your material? Just to note that image will be just some 300 to 350 pixels wide as well we expect some thousand of images to be upload in some short time and this will reduce reload time for visitors.

I have made few sample of images with 45 degree watermark label. Images are 350 pixels wide.

Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 02, 2008, 06:03:46 PM
I would like to ask you for advice. There is two more categories to be add. One is Gallery with the selection of my digital and oil art and the other will be with archive images. So how to name this with archive images? It could not be called archive as well the site have Archive where is stored data of all articles from particular period. Maybe some name like... Collection, Memorabilia... I don't know. Any idea?

Imagery store?

I could look through some of my images for uploading  :-think
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: samuraj77 on May 02, 2008, 07:01:58 PM
 :( Unfortunately I don't have no archive photos of my own...
Considering the name Collection (or Photo Collection) should give all the visitors a certain idea about it's content...
Hope this helps a bit  :-wave
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on May 02, 2008, 09:13:54 PM
"Photo Collection" would make me curious. or LetLetLet treasure chamber  :-green
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 02, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
Nice input ;) Just get an idea- how about name Source ? In fact this is the source material? I will give no action without your suggestion.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 04, 2008, 03:07:51 PM
I have just include online translation. Please check it out how this work. One question- I have make pages with your portfolio but forget that I will make better authors page which will have automatically all info about the article you have post. What about to erase first pages and left only pages of this type:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/author/nico/

They are better then this one:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/about/nico-braas/

What do you think?
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 04, 2008, 07:15:24 PM
I liked the first one, full of information.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 05, 2008, 10:29:30 PM
All right. But here are the problems again. On this image you could see flags which present language translation support. Problem is that in Firefox I see only one flag, UK, and when I click on it appear very thin row of flags where is not possible to see correct flag. In Opera this work perfect and I would like to know how this look like in Explorer.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on May 05, 2008, 10:51:29 PM
I have another problem for Firefox ;o

What should load there on the start page? It will not load with my firefox.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 06, 2008, 09:20:44 AM
All right. But here are the problems again. On this image you could see flags which present language translation support. Problem is that in Firefox I see only one flag, UK, and when I click on it appear very thin row of flags where is not possible to see correct flag. In Opera this work perfect and I would like to know how this look like in Explorer.

I see what you mean. The problem is there will always be some issues between differnt browsers, hopefully when Firefox 3 is relased things my get better. I have to use IE at work, but I only have Firefox at home.
I think I will download Firefox 3 Beta and try it out this week.  :-/
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 06, 2008, 09:28:44 AM
I have write a note to the author of this script and hope he could be able to fix this problem. Or I will change translator option. I can not ask visitors to change browsers just for my web site. It have to be good display in every browser.

"Display or die" :))
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 06, 2008, 11:14:12 AM
"Display or die"

 ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on May 06, 2008, 11:45:36 AM
My Dad has firefox 3 Beta on his PC i will test there later today  ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 06, 2008, 01:57:06 PM
All right :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 07, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Can you believe  :-eek this man have blog dedicated to our web site  :-razz

http://technorati.com/blogs/www.letletlet-warplanes.com
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 08, 2008, 02:08:21 PM
Latest news- web site space is upgraded on 2 GB and in this moment, when the main site is in rebuilt, LLL is 554 MB heavy  :-eek In the gallery we have over thousand of images and there is not counted images directly upload on articles. My expectation is that in few month in the Collection section we will have some thousand of archive images.

Thing is rolling slow but powerful.

 :-wave
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 10, 2008, 11:39:05 AM
Typographic tip- how do you like this old good book design tips with first letter  :-razz  :)  ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 10, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
Good idea, makes the article stand out.  :-ok
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 10, 2008, 04:36:35 PM
Thank you mate :) Now I would like to ask you for help. Who could be able to make some review of the team behind LLL?

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/about/
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on May 13, 2008, 07:33:31 PM
Bolded letter makes the article more attractive.  :-ok and next good news. I tested with Firefox 3 Beta 5 and problem with thumbnail is solved!!!  :-cool
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 13, 2008, 08:11:04 PM
Thats great mate :) And who will take a time to write some short text about us?
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: mfg495 on May 13, 2008, 08:18:56 PM
Thats great mate :) And who will take a time to write some short text about us?

I will try and put something together this week hopefully  :-wise
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 13, 2008, 08:20:03 PM
All right mate ;) Please give me PM if you need any specific info or so on.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 09:39:33 AM
Hi mate. I found another bug. When you have translated (it now works with Firefox 3beta) the thumbnails will not load because they link to a different URL with country code in it.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 17, 2008, 10:05:36 AM
Yes it is true. And this could not be set in this browser. It work good in Opera. As you can see it is impossible to make something good for all. But hope in future will fix all of this.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on May 27, 2008, 12:27:13 AM
Well- this is more or less set as it have to be. You have now featured articles which is changing in the top of the page. Most of the articles have also its own linked from the main pages as well from category pages. In some future I will going to make some changes in the style sheet as well customize some flash. This will not be easy.

Any suggestion?
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: divanov on June 02, 2008, 07:10:27 PM
Problem with IE 7?
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: Wingman81 on June 03, 2008, 11:37:03 AM
This graphic shows now completly correct in Firefox 3.0  ;)
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on June 03, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Also work perfect in Opera but to regret over 80% still use Microsoft Explorer. I will going to see and change code. Anyway- main subject are bellow and not cover. So this could be accepted for first time.
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on June 07, 2008, 10:10:07 PM
One more detail:

(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/plugins/add-to-any/share_save_171_16.gif)

This is add on every article so you can share this article on many places.

Cheers  :-wave
Title: Re: Let Let Let Warplanes will going down
Post by: No.1 on June 08, 2008, 07:47:53 AM
Color layout is changed and it is more like the old version web site and close to the look of forum. What do you think?