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Warplane Art / Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator
« on: July 19, 2010, 07:04:11 PM »
Yep, that GR VI is a neat paint scheme. The Collings Foundation Liberator started life as GR VI KH188 and later served the Indian Air Force for many years as T-18. The RAF Liberators haven't ever gotten sufficient press as far as I'm concerned. They served in various roles for almost the entire war.

Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator
« on: July 17, 2010, 05:55:35 PM »
I'm lovng these profiles of the ugly old pig! I say "ugly" and "pig" in an affectionate way as I've grown to like the Liberator over the years. It does look like the discarded packing crate a B-17 would be shipped in, though! :-jump

PM sent, No.1
Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator
« on: July 10, 2010, 04:37:28 AM »
I am afraid that in this turn I could not be able to make Privateer, no matter that I really love this plane. But in some future I would like to make also this plane as well to get Matchbox kit and make conversions with guided bombs which US used on Pacific. You are right- this machine have very interesting schemes :)

I've got a Koster 1/48th PB4Y-2 conversion in storage if I can ever get that darned Y1B-17 done!


Scott

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Consolidate B-24 Liberator
« on: July 06, 2010, 04:33:34 AM »
I've got a funny (to me, anyway) story that goes along with the nose art. When Chad, his father, and two friends of Chads were painting the nose art I was in the fuselage installing the bomb racks we'd acquired. We had worked out a deal where I would be able to do structure work without moving around too much while they painted. If I had to move more than a little I was supposed to let the paint crew know about it, but I forgot a couple of times....... :-red There are a few little flaws in the nose art that were caused by my clumsiness! Chad and his crew said it added character to the artwork as they were doing it just like the painters would have back in WWII at a combat station. Incidentally, the nose art is all hand-painted with brushes exactly like it was done back in the day. No airbrushes for those guys! :-ok :-cool

Scott

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Consolidate B-24 Liberator
« on: July 04, 2010, 02:08:01 AM »
The story of that old Liberator could fill a book, No.1. She started off life on a USAAC contract as a B-24A. The RAF purchased her before completion in one of their early Liberator acquisitions and she became AM927. After being damaged in a landing accident in the U.S. the British released the airplane to Consolidated and it became the first "prototype" of the C-87 aircraft, as well as a test-bed and company transport. After the war she ended up with Consolidated Can, and you've included a photo of her during that time:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/ConsolidatedB-24AAM927N1503Continen.jpg


Later she was flown by the Mexican company Pemex and then sold to the Confederate Air Force. She became the desert sand colored Diamond Lil for many years until the late Gary Austin did a reconversion project in 2007 that brought her partway back to the bomber configuration. The Ol'927 nose art was designed and executed by a great artist named Chad Hill. The art doesn't try to replicate an original scheme, rather it is something that is friendly to all ages and done in a style similar to WWII era artwork. The airplane became known as Ol'927 during the war hopscotching around the United States on Consolidated company business.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_039411.jpg


Sorry I don't have a better photo of the artwork.
Scott


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Combat Warplanes / Re: Consolidate B-24 Liberator
« on: July 03, 2010, 10:48:16 PM »
Ellen and I spent a LOT of hours working on the CAF B-24A/LB-30. We affectionately called her "The Pig" during the reconfiguration project that changed her from Diamond Lil to Ol' 927. Here are a couple of photos we shot during her first hop in July of 2007.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/7-14-07006.jpg


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/Ol9277-14-2007.jpg


Scott

4882
Warplane Art / Re: Shooting Star
« on: June 12, 2010, 06:50:30 PM »
I also did not find info, not even register letters or serials of his final plane.

Major Bong was killed on a factory/USAAF acceptance flight. The airplane was P-80A 44-85048, and I would suppose it was in the light grey paint scheme common to the very early P-80s.

Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Boeing B-29
« on: June 04, 2010, 04:44:05 PM »
I'll have to get my B-29 material dug out of storage. When I do I'll put up a few photos of some trainers. :-jump

One observation on your side view--notice that a good number of Superfort ground crew removed the louvered panels over the turbochargers, both in the U.S. and the combat zone. It isn't consistent, but something that is quite noticeable.

Great stuff!
Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Boeing B-29
« on: June 04, 2010, 07:40:16 AM »
Yes, it was his uncle, not grandfather. I'd forgotten--it seems the memory is one of the first things to go! :-wise

I've got enough B-29 subjects to keep you going for a long time on this thread! One of my research projects over the years has been the B-29 training program in Nebraska and Kansas. Trainers aren't as "sexy" as combat airplanes to most folks, but I've always found them very interesting. I'll have to get you a few images to study when I find the time.

Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Boeing B-29
« on: June 03, 2010, 08:38:20 PM »
Ahah!

Would his WIX screen name start with a famous US patrol boat? :)

Scott

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Warplane Art / Re: Boeing B-29
« on: June 03, 2010, 07:37:04 PM »
No.1,

I've been in touch with a young man (on WIX) over the years whose grandfather was lost when Werewolf was shot down on her last mission. Several of us helped him to find the hardstand where A Square 28 parked on Isely Field, Saipan. I will try to find him and steer him here so he can view your art. He'll be very happy to see it, I think.

Scott

4887
Arado 234?

S

4888
Aircraft Modeling / Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« on: May 16, 2010, 06:02:08 PM »
I believe the P-26s were used in the very early part of the war for some training duties and as "personal" airplanes in a few cases. They were also used in maintenance training schools for a time and I've seen pictures of them in standard olive drab/neutral grey camouflage in a Chanute maintenance school hangar.

The Filipino air arm fought bravely with their P-26s against the Japanese in the early days of the Pacific war, also.

Scott

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« on: May 16, 2010, 04:45:23 PM »
Beautiful three-view, No.1!

I can't decide if the small red panel just behind the cowling is truly red or fresh olive-drab to match the rest of the anti-glare panel in the photo. I'm thinking it was a replacement part in green, but I may use the red as you've done it.

These training airplanes were flown very hard and the maintenance crews were faced with shortages of spare parts. The Base Historical Records tell of not being able to get parts and tires because priority went to the combat zones first, then CONUS training stations. Bruning nearly had to cease flying for a short time because no tailwheel tire inner tubes could be gotten.

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« on: May 15, 2010, 10:30:40 PM »
Y36 was a P-47D-20RA built at the new Republic plant at Evansville. The serial is 43-25372.

One interesting thing about the Thunderbolts assigned to Bruning was that they got a lot of "oddballs". They had Curtiss-built Gs and the second prototype of the bubbletop variant ended up as a trainer there.

Scott

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