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Aircraft Modeling / Re: 1:32 Bf109G Hasegawa or Trumpeter

« on: June 17, 2011, 09:10:24 AM »

The site seems to say postage to France only

Good morning Ta152C, 

You can order through the internet and you will be told for the amount of charges to the UK.

Have a good day,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: 1:32 Bf109G Hasegawa or Trumpeter

« on: June 17, 2011, 12:20:35 AM »

Thanks for the sprue shot! I have the Fujimi G-10, but every panel is there and some have to be filled in. Lovely model though.

Is your book on the late 109's still available? I'm in the UK but I'd like to get a copy of it.

Yes, it is. You may buy it directly to the publisher :

http://www.aero-journal.com/messerschmitt-BF109.php

All the best,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: 1:32 Bf109G Hasegawa or Trumpeter

« on: June 17, 2011, 12:09:52 AM »

Didn't Revell issue it as a K-4 as well?

No, that was Revell in 1991 in adding some necessary parts but forgetting to explain the other modifications to be be made to obtain a real Bf 109 K-4 such as the repostionning of the fuselage hatch or engraving the covers for the tailwheel.
The box art :


The extra parts :


Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: 1:32 Bf109G Hasegawa or Trumpeter

« on: June 16, 2011, 11:51:29 PM »

Jicehen- when you mention Revell 1/48 kit, is this the Monogram kit?

Yes. The origin is Revell in 1978 with markings of "gelbe 6" of II./JG 52 which landed at bad Aibling on 8 May 1945. Monogram has re-issued this kit (moulded in very dark green !) with the markings of "graue 7" of II./JG 300. But these markings are inaccurate for a WNF-built Bf 109 G-10/U4 because "graue 7" was an Erla-built Bf 109 G-10/R6 (Schlechtwetterjäger)



Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: 1:32 Bf109G Hasegawa or Trumpeter

« on: June 16, 2011, 11:33:46 PM »

Hi Ta152C, 

The best kit is assurely Hasegawa's although it has some shortcomings... very difficult to correct. I say for the perfectionnist who is looking fot the best possible accuracy.
In general, ALL kits, in any scale, have a too short fuselage, apart from two very old kits (circa 1978 !) i. e. Airfix's Bf 109 F-4 and Revell's Bf 109 G-10 in 1/48 scale. In general too, fuselage section let much to be desired...

Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: RLM v hobby paint comparison charts

« on: May 25, 2011, 11:26:18 AM »

Peter,

Here is a link. You may buy directly. :

http://www.aero-journal.com/Camo-Luftwaffe.php

Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: RLM v hobby paint comparison charts

« on: May 25, 2011, 10:02:19 AM »

For example looking at RLM 83 there are at least 8 'recipes' most of them different from each other.
Peter H

Hi mates,  Hi Peter,

Peter, your job is very good and has surely been time consuming. Bravo !  
I think it will be very useful to any one using "authentic paints".
Personnally, I don't use "authentic paints" because they are generally inaccurate and far too dark for a good rendering in scale. It's the reason why I only use Humbrol paints and make mixes to obtain the different RLM colors.
I've studied for years (exactly to say : for decades !) the different camouflage colors (French Armée de l'air, Luftwaffe, RAF, USAF). Regarding the RLM colors, I've worked on copies of original documents (the same ones as Ken Merrick or Michael Ullmann), translating them and the result has been this extra issue of Aéro-Journal, the book of which No. 1 has spoken.
I've quoted the remark about RLM 83. It's absolutely normal there are "8 recipes different from each others" because NO ONE knows what it looked like... In the German texts (issued by the RLM), colors are never designed by their names but only by their numbers (i. e. 81, 82, 76, etc). So that we know only that RLM 83 (only one time found in the Sammelmiteilung Nr. 2 from 15.8.1944) was dark enough to receive markings in white but it's not said what color it was... No one knows if it was a grey, a green or something else. Regarding its use with camouflage schemes, this RLM 83 appears nowhere. All camouflage schemes issued by the manufacturers have only RLM 81 and RLM 82 colors for the uppersurfaces (Messerschmitt Me 262, Fw Ta 152, He 162, Do 335, etc.) And the name of colors were only given by the manufacturers on their OS-Listen.
Another point is that for "Desert camouflage" Germans used firstly Italian colors. The real desert colors by the RLM appeared only in Irak in 1941 (RLM 79 and RLM 78)

I also downloaded the color chart. I have to say there has been NO RLM 84 at all. This color seems to me to be only variations of RLM 76. In my files I have two different official manufacturer recipes of RLM 76, the same for RLM 65 and RLM 66.
During the time I made research upon colors I sudied the rendering of different colors on actual black and white films for the decade 1935-1945. I'm sure now that some renderings of RLM colors on Luftwaffe plane profiles are totally inaccurate, particularly the colors of letters, numbers and Reichsluftverteidigung bands...
By the way, I can assume the color chart of No. 1 is very good and far better than the different colors proposed for kits.

Peter, the rendering of your chart should be better on a neutral gray background. One more time, it's a very good reference chart. Any one can choose what is the best for him through his feelings.

Cheers,

Jicéhem      

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 30, 2011, 03:49:43 PM »

Hi mate,  

Very good !
One detail : the V53's spinner had a big hole at the tip (maybe for MK 103 or 108). Don't you think it was not visible from sideview ? Slightly cutting off the very tip of the spinner ?
If I remember well, the very first prototype with a Jumo 213 A was the Fw 190 V17, WNr 0039 : bare metal overall, no markings and no fuselage extension. Fin had a greater surface à la Ta 152.


©unknown ; used only to illustrate a text.

Cheers,

Jicéhem  

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 28, 2011, 10:17:58 PM »

Hi No; 1,

Very fine layout. The result will be terrific !

Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 28, 2011, 09:35:17 AM »

Regarding colors after August 1944 there are many misinterpretations because during a transition period some "assembly" of colors were authorized to eliminate too very important stocks of paints (That's described in Sammemitteilung Nr. 1 of (1st ?) July 1944. Uppersurfaces of planes (except fighters which remained in RLM 74, 75 and 76 until 15th August 1944 the date of suppression of RLM 74) were allowed to be painted RLM 70 and RLM 82 or RLM 71 and RLM 81. But after 15th August 1944, fighters were allowed to be painted RLM 81, 75 or 82, 75 with undersurfaces in RLM 76 in both cases. So that some Fw 190 D-9 could have been painted RLM 81, 75 or 82, 75... until about October-November 1944. In November 1944 new colors of 81, 82 and 76 are applied by Fw on the Fw 190 D-9. There is evidently a missing "Sammelmitteilung Nr. 3" dated October or November 1944...

Have a good day,

Jicéhem  

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 28, 2011, 08:31:05 AM »

I will left just last in row, industrial protection color, wrongly described as RLM 84

Yes, some "historians" have made great damage to the truth... RLM 84 didn't exist at all.
Some years ago, before I began my work on German camouflages for the French review "Aéro-Journal", I've contacted some "experts" in German colors about RLM 83 asking simply what tone it was : green or gray ?  For some, I'm always awaiting the answer... One of them prided himself in having reconstituted this color. I asked him where he found the formulae which apparently has been lost... I'm always awaiting the answer !
Personnally, basing my idea on the restaured He 162 A of the "Musée de l'air" at Le Bourget, I think RLM 83 was a gray color but dark enough to very well see white markings on it as it's specified in the Sammelmitteilung Nr. 2 on 15th August 1944 (RLM didn't named colors, they gave only in the texts the reference number, and it's why we find only the reference "RLM 83", without the description of the color. We know only it's a dark color...) Well ; on this He 162 (WNr 120015) there is a totally unknown medium gray color on the fuselage sides. That's not RLM 76 very well identified on the forward fuselage and vertical fin and rudder assemblies. Other colors found are RLM 81 on the engine cowlings, RLM 82 on the back of the fuselage and... RLM 70 and RLM 65 on the wooden wings.
We don't know if a hypothetical third Sammelmitteilung ever existed, by which color 83 had to be applied...
Have a good day,

Jicéhem  

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 28, 2011, 07:56:53 AM »

Hi No. 1, 

I see in the color chart what seems to be a "RLM 83" color. I must say you there is no RLM 83 in the schemes of the Fw 190 D-9... nor for another plane such as Me 262, Fi 156, Ar 234, Bü 181, very late Bf 109s, Fw 190 F, etc.

Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Warplane Art / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 D

« on: April 27, 2011, 06:31:02 PM »

Hi mate,

Very good project.

Cheers,

Jicéhem

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Warplane Art / Re: a little restailing...

« on: March 18, 2011, 11:22:03 PM »

but on the book Classic Colours - Luftwaffe Colours - Jagdwaffe Vol 3 Sect 3 - War Over The Desert (North Africa June 1940-June 1942) and on other book the hart it's red...   

Hi Santynus, 
 
Yes, I know. But every searcher thought the heart was red because they imagined that black and white photos were made on ortho films with which the rendering of red is black on the prints. They ignored that the German photographers had only panchro films (Agfa, Orwo). Knowing that fact, the question arose to know if the heart was really red or black. Until the day when Dr Prien discovered those color photos... showing the heart was actually black...
In some books where the heart is colored red there are two options : the book has been published before the photos were known or the author doesn't know the truth...

Cheers,

Jicéhem 

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Warplane Art / Re: a little restailing...

« on: March 17, 2011, 05:39:17 PM »

Thank you Jicehem for your info about the "Bf.109E-7 flown by Feldwebel Karl Laub,t 7/JG26, Ain El Gazala, Libya, June 1941"
if you can, could you please post your photos abot this subject, (my reference is a color profile of the book [Warpaint Special n°02] - Bf109, Page 16)

Hi Santynus, 

Here is the proof. I can't post the entire photo because it's copyrighted...



Cheers,

Jicéhem