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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48

« on: July 06, 2012, 05:18:09 PM »

Huntley's article identifies the pale grey (Perleweiss) used in between-war Germany, and that alone is a great find.

I don't think so, beacause Perleweiss was certainly RLM 67 and was not used to paint military planes... It's also possible this light grey could be L40/52 Hellgrau. The very light rendering of those paints is due to surexposition of the photograph or a bad reproduction of the original (to high a contrast).

Jicéhem  

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-8/R2 of II./JG 300

« on: July 05, 2012, 05:43:49 PM »

Thank you mate.
I forgot to tell that the scale is 1/72 (Airfix has also issued the Arii kit in 1/48 scale during the 1990's)

Jicehem

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Aircraft Modeling / Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-8/R2 of II./JG 300

« on: July 05, 2012, 05:31:41 PM »

Hi everybody,  

here is a Fw 190 A-8/R2 which is the (very) old kit issued in 1977. I added a sliding blown canopy (seen on the photo that I used as a guide). It's unusual for an A-8/R2. The kit has been entirely hand-painted including the spinner spiral, excepted the markings. The exhaust stains are made of real lampblack.
This plane was "schwarze 4" of II./JG 300 in February 1945.









Jicéhem  

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Aircraft Modeling / Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-5/U11

« on: July 05, 2012, 05:16:01 PM »

Hi all,  

Everybody says the Frog's Fw 190 is an A-3 but the total length matches the one of the Fw 190 A-5... Having got the markings of the plane (Fw 190 A-5/U11) of Lt Erich Hondt, I decided to apply these markings to an old Frog's kit that I found only badly built "from the box" and without paint at all... I restored it. And on the same occasion I detailed it : I cut out the wheel wells which were totally missing. I lengthenned the spinner. I replaced too the MG 17 cowling that I took on a Heller kit of the Fw 190 F-3 and also the gondolas for the twin 20 mm canons. The canons themselves are made of hypodermic needles. I replaced too the original canopy which was covered with cement... I detailed also the front part of the BMW engine. I added the small mast at the top of the fin.  
I know only one photograph of Hondt's plane. Usually it's given with a yellow fuselage band for the JG 11 but due to the date (November 1943) I don't agree with this assertion because at this date, most of the Reichsluftverteidigung had red bands. The one-third part of the spinner is for the I. Gruppe and the red lower par of the engine cowling is for the 2. Staffel.

And now are the pictures. The first one has been taken under the same angle than the one of the real plane. The red "arrows" on tne fuselage are a too brillant color red. The German red matches more the painted band around the fuselage end.
















Jicehem  

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Aircraft Modeling / Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48

« on: July 05, 2012, 04:52:37 PM »

I think about this three colors too but instead of green can be easy RLM 02, in this way we should consider Ian Huntley research where he state that used colors on top are lighter grey.

Lighter grey as you state should be RLM 63. We can think this camo was locally applied amd may also be made of Spanish colors... which were not the same than German ones. That was the case for many He 51 after the end of the civil war. Is the date of this photograph known ?

Jicehem  

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Warplane Art / Re: Bf109G

« on: June 14, 2012, 05:32:14 PM »

New sample Bf190G-6/Rg from JG.300

Bf 109 G-6/R6

Jicehem 

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Warplane Art / Re: Bf109G

« on: June 14, 2012, 05:17:05 PM »

This have interesting free hand number on vertical.

WNr 166224 = Bf 109 G-6, not a G-14. This plane was captured by American troops in August 1944 in France at Nogent-le-Roy.

Jicehem

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Warplane Art / Re: Bf109G

« on: June 14, 2012, 05:11:13 PM »

Here's one I do have Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6/U2 (TP814 c/n 412951).
Photographed at Air Fighting Development Unit, Duxford, England, UK, 1941-42.

Hi mate, 

I'm sorry but the date given to you for this photgraph is not possible. This plane of JG 300 was captured on 21st July 1944, when her pilot, Lt Horst prenzel landed by error at Manston. With Skz NS+FE, she was originally "weiße 16" of I./JG 300. At this date most of the RV (Reichsluftverteidigung = Defence of the Reich) planes had a red band which appeared during November 1943. S/Ldr Falk flew her to Farnborough on 26 july 1944. She crashed during take-off on 23rd November 1944 and was damaged beyond repair...

Cheers,

Jicehem 

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Warplane Art / Re: Bf109G

« on: June 14, 2012, 04:54:57 PM »

One rare sample of the Bf109G-2/R4 captured in 1943 by British troops. It have two camera inside of the fuselage and behind the pilot.

Hi mate,

I'm sorry but it's a G-4/R2/Trop with only one camera (Rb 50/30) behind the pilot's seat. Her name was "Irmgard" painted under and forward the cockpit. Unit was 2. (H)/14. This plane was captured and repaired by the Americans. Pitot tube was replaced by American one. (In my book, ref. G-4/R4 was an error (non corrected because I was at the hospital at that time...)

Jicehem   

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Warplane Art / Re: Udri po grbine

« on: May 26, 2012, 11:54:01 AM »

Hi mate 

 

Jicehem 

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Me-109 which one????

« on: May 10, 2012, 10:14:16 AM »

I really enjoy this thread! Research is one of my favorite pasttimes and having y'all share all your research is great.

Hi mates, 

Other drawings resulting from my research :

Daimler-benz DB 628 A, two superchargers, the low pressure one being placed on the nose of the engine, numbered 5 on the drawing. No 12 is the intercooler) :


 
Bf 109 H V50 with DB 605 A in place of DB 628 A :


Three-view drawing of the Bf 109 V 50 with standard lengthened Bf 109 G wings :


Bf 109 H V54 :


Bf 109 H V55 with extra fuselage section (not retained for production) :


Standard Bf 109 H-2/H-3. Bf 109 H-2 had MW 50, Bf 109 H-2/R2 had both MW 50 and GM-1 and Bf 109 H-3 was a recce version with either an Rb 50/30 or an Rb 75/30 camera :


Three-view drawing of Bf 109 H-2 (made from partial manual found at Heinkel !) :


Here is a 1940's project of aerodynamics improvment of the Bf 109 E :


Cheers,

Jicehem 

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Me-109 which one????

« on: May 10, 2012, 12:26:40 AM »

Build is great and sad that there is no photo evidence of the type

Maybe the photos were destroyed as this prototype and others (Bf 109 H V54 and V55) during the Allied air raid on Stuttgart-Untertürkheim in July 1944...
All those prototypes were flight-tested at Daimler-Benz.

Jicehem

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Me-109 which one????

« on: May 09, 2012, 11:25:06 PM »

I have one further very intrigueing question: has someone ever seen photographs of the Messerschmitt Me-109H high-altitude version? It was built in small numbers only for operational testing but in general it was regarded as a failure, although it could reacht an altitude of more than 14,500 m!
Images of this rare type would be very welcome!!

Hi mates, 

I've never seen photos of the Bf 109 H, but I found, many years ago good description (with WNr 16281, an ex-G-5 and Skz SP+EB) within flight reports and drawings of the Bf 109 H V1. All that material permitted me to build a kit of this particular plane fitted with a DB 628, a two stage-compressed DB 605 A :








It's true the series Bf 109 H-2/H-3 was never built but the aircraft manual has been written... This model was built on the Erla-Leipzig Bf 109 K-4 fuselage fitted with a DB 605 E (a high altitude DB 605 D with a different demultiplication ratio) and the lengthened wing span (11,92 m  against 9,92 m). I made a profile after drawings found at Daimler-Benz in Stuttgart and MBB :


I never found any information about this supposed little batch of Bf 109 H-0 built in France...

Cheers,

Jicehem 

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Me-109 which one????

« on: May 09, 2012, 09:44:51 AM »

Nico,

Have you studied this link?: http://www.indianamilitary.org/FreemanAAF/Aircraft%20-%20German/FE%200123-Me109/0123.htm It does, indeed have the fuselage fairing that could indicate a G-10. However, the same research organization shows it to have been a K-4 here: http://www.indianamilitary.org/FreemanAAF/FE%20NUMBERS/More%20Numbers.htm
Scott

Hi mates,

The first link says : "The two data plates are an indication that the aircraft was remanufactured by converting a reclaimed fuselage of an older model." That's definitely wrong. On G-10s (as per other types) there were several "id. plates" on a plane. One of the two indicates, on this particular plane, the Sachnummer and the fuselage own WNr, and the second one the Werknummer of the complete plane and its manufacturer. We don't know the reason why the identification of the fuselage was located here onto the fuselage of the G-10s...

The second link says : "BF-109K-4, Germany, FE-123, T2-123, shipped to USA".
Look at the photo and you will see this FE-123 has two of the characteristics of a WNF's Bf 109 G-10/U4 : gonio antenna on the forward position (one section back on the K-4) and the non retractable tailwheel.



On the other side (photo in first link) we see the refueling hatch in back location (repositionned one fuselage section forward on the K-4)

And here are some photos of id. plates for fuselages found on different planes :
Bf 110 :


Do 217 :


He 177 :


Ju 188 :


Cheers,

Jicehem

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Me-109 which one????

« on: May 08, 2012, 10:58:19 PM »

Hi mates  

This plane is a genuine Bf 109 G-10/U4 from Wiener-Neustädter Flugzeugbau (WNF) ; its WNr has been lost but it was in the 610000 series. Its ultimate fate is inknown.
I have to say that there has been no Bf 109G/K hybrids due to the the fact that although apparently similar to the Bf 109 G-10, the K-4 was a different plane : different cockpit, different fittings, different accessories layout, etc.
Two other G-10 from WNF were captured with the references T2-122 (WNr 610xxx. When restored no identification plate has not been but some Nummersachen indicating it's a G-10/U4) and FE-124 (WNr 610937) from a production batch of about 370 produced between December 1944 and January 1945.

Cheers,

Jicehem