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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 27, 2008, 05:08:47 PM »
@Leti.

So you think the right one is more like a larger bomber 2x propeller type machine with two vertical fins that are higher than the main fuselage wings? Could also be possible.

Ill have a look in my books tonight and post a short llist with my suggestions ;o

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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 26, 2008, 11:23:23 PM »
Very hard to tell with the bad resolution. The right looks to me as 2 planes or objects. But i dont think its a He162 Mistel because this had V-wings foward bent or normal wings. This one has V-wings backwards. Maybe another plane type carriers it?

http://www.luftwaffen-projekte.de/lwp/jaeger/archiv/me262_archiv.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/Bilderseiten/Me262-R.htm
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14644


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Combat Warplanes / Re: Adamoli Cattani
« on: February 26, 2008, 09:45:55 PM »
Thanks Santy, thats the only photo i had found also.

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Forums Works / Re: New member from Pittsburgh
« on: February 26, 2008, 05:26:34 PM »
:-wise
Wingman;

No sir, I am not German.  My grandparents were from Switzerland (Aargau).  I speak German somewhat (Swiss) and can read it pretty well.
I live in Pittsburh, PA where there are many people with German backgrounds.  I enjoy singing in the Teutonia Manner und Damen Chor and the Mannerchor Helvetia.  I also play in a German Band (tuba).  Years ago, when I was teaching, I taught a beginning class In German.  Trying to teach Americans a foreign language is a daunting task.

Hi Sir! Ok thats nice, so i can give you aviation weblinks in german sometimes, thats why i asked  :-cool
When i was in the US in 1999 (Nebraska) my host family were also of swiss ancestry but they didnt speak the language. My cousins are also swiss. At least one of them. They live in a suburb of Geneva.





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Combat Warplanes / Re: BMW Motor history
« on: February 26, 2008, 05:11:44 PM »
Ok that helps a little :)

Short summary:
Part I:

Basically it is about the development of the BMW IIIa motor. A motor developed for great altitudes. Besides BMW was before called the Rapp motor company. In February when a new chief engeneer Max Friz arrived from Mercedes he wanted to do an overcompressed motor because he wasnt able to do this project at Mercedes (Daimler). This concept was suggested by Wilhelm Maybach a year before (1916) but wasnt realized. On 20 May 1917 Friz registered the first construction draft for the new motor. The engineer based it as a 6 cylinder in-line motor, which would ensure optimal mass compensation and therefore a low vibration level. The overdimensioned Cylinder head and cylinder were constructed as a combined unit to avoid a critical head gasket.

 One of the most important components of the innovative engine Friz constructed with a special high-altitude carburetor. A System of 3 mixing chambres, each 3 Air - and fuel injectors as well as 5 throttle valves worked so together that the mixing could be regulated to the specific flight altitude
The pilot had to have two levers for normal or Höhengas. This mix regulation should bring the motor later a very good proportion between performance and consumption. The design drawings were still not quite finished, in July 1917 as a commission of the army visited Rapp-engine plants to discuss the project.
After its construction Friz presented and explained, the military was so convinced that they promptly ordered 600 pieces of the engine.

Through this success several internal restructurings were done within the company and company founder Rapp left the company. On July 21 1917 the company was renamed in Bayerische Motorenwerke.
It was only then when the actual company logo was replaced by the today sitll actual logo with the white blue colors of bavaria. etc etc. :)

On December 23 1917 first BMW engine withe the designation IIIa took lift off within a Rumpler C.IV. It had 185 PS (hp) and 2500 were ordered by the military.  Until war's end not all could be delivered.

Note from Wingman81: Same motor was also in the Fokker D.VII, designated as Fokker D.VII(F). Pilots preferred this motor over the regular Mercedes D.III ones. Later Mercedes made D.IIIaü motor with 200 PS

Next part tomorrow  :-cool

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Combat Warplanes / BMW Motor history
« on: February 26, 2008, 04:14:11 PM »

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Diesel engines in bombers
« on: February 26, 2008, 04:08:15 PM »
Hi Leo.
Have a look on this page, it might interest you:

http://www.der-werftverein.de/akr/jumo205.html

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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 26, 2008, 12:14:31 AM »
Merci beaucoup  :-ok :-obey

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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 25, 2008, 11:26:18 PM »
Ok no worries here mate, my problem was i couldnt find a good Nie12 picture where i could see the differences to the Nie10 or better i found some but mostly from the wrong angles  :-think

Gruß
Kilian

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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 25, 2008, 09:57:16 PM »
Hi Bruno.

:-wise  Thats very interesting. I had asked Kees in your absence and he told me it is a Nie10 because of the rectengular hole where the observer could fire above the propeller circle from front seat. The pale edge you see below the motor is a cut damage in the original photo. For his defense i must say he had a much smaller version of the photo to see.  :-green So you think from the motor and upper wing we can rule out a Nie10?

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Stealth bomber crashes on Guam
« on: February 24, 2008, 04:50:46 PM »
Horten V was build in my neighbourhood. After it was crashed they build the Ho Vb and mounted the undamaged Hirth HM 60-R motors. If i understood it right this plane could only take off ground with the help of a dragger (car) like a glider.

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Combat Warplanes / Adamoli Cattani
« on: February 23, 2008, 11:37:58 PM »
Hi mates.

Since on aerodrome nobody can answer to it, ill post this here also in the hope Santy or someone else knows something about it  :-cool

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Hello.

Does someone have a clue where i can find more info about this Prototype besides basic data?
Thats the only photo i found online. I would appreciate any literature hints as well.

best regards
Kilian

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Stealth bomber crashes on Guam
« on: February 23, 2008, 09:55:17 PM »
Thanks for the Microeconomics lesson  :-green

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Combat Warplanes / Re: Stealth bomber crashes on Guam
« on: February 23, 2008, 06:09:52 PM »
Imagine what you could build for that money of 1 stealth bomber.  :-eek

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Combat Warplanes / Re: The identify the plane thread
« on: February 22, 2008, 11:49:36 PM »
Can someone tell me if this is a Nieuport 10? The plans i found online didnt help me that much.  :-wave

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