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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: No.1 on December 09, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
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Last time to start build this kit which were arrived few months ago :)) It is Eduard re issue of Academy kit and it feature excellent resin parts
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Ohoho, this will be great build!! :-tri
A lot of resin and PE parts!! :-tri :-clap :-clap
Great job so far mate!! ;) :-clap
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Lansen is at very end of work so I can start this kit too. It look like easy to make, after completing all of PE and resin inside. Most resin come in cockpit, PE are everywhere, new set I get is mostly for landing gear and exterior.
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Beautiful resin and PE details!
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Nice build to follow!!!
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Great No.1
Some tips about landing gear interiors colors. If you apply Olive Drab/Neutral Gray camo, landing gear bays and legs were painted in Neutral Gray (most of references indicate Interior green or Green Zinchromate, sometimes just landing gear covers bay were painted in inside section, not all bays).
If you painted in Natural Metal Finish, you can apply same overall color with some ducts in yellow zinchromate, and it is possible to paint landing gear leg in Neutral grey in early -J models. Also, some of them had seat, seat frame and armor plate painted in Olive Drab. Cockpit color was standarized to cover overall Interior Green color from middle -J to L version.
I will follow you in this threat........... :)
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Excellent tips, this will reduce my search time- thank you mate :-ok
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No.1,
A pleasure!! P-38 is my favorite airplane, I've spent a lot of time looking for a lot of details, so please fell free asking for any detail, all of you when you decide to built one.....
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I am back to this project. My final decision is to do camouflage sample and this work present basic painting and shading of the cockpit interior. More work need to be do on this area and I think I can handle this today.
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More work on cockpit and still not completed
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Nice occasion for a photo update!!
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Here is the second and last batch!
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Excellent Nico :-clap :-ok
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Good progress!
My father used to tell me how much they liked seeing the P-38 fly overhead in North Africa--since there was nothing else shaped like it they always knew it was one of theirs!
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Thank you mate :-ok I go back to work bench now ;)
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There is an interesting story that Lockheed test pilot Tony LeVier visited the U.S.A.A.F. in England to show pilots operational on the P-38 how to handle the twin-engine fighter in such way that they could successfully encounter the latest versions of the Bf-109 and FW-190. LeVier exactly knew how to use flaps and engine throttles to outfly any single engine type!!
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Nice work mate, and great photos Nico!! :-flo :-clap
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Thank you friends :)) More work on my side, I relax a bit and later will take on more work ;)
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Nice work!!! :-ok
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Thank you friend :))
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Your progress is very good... :-clap :-ok
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Very nice No.1
A interesting point is that early -J productions model had seat subassembly (seat, seat support and bulletproof back plate) in Olive Drab. In middle production was changed to Interior Green....
Thanks, and my best wishes for all you in this New Year, Mates!!
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Do you have serial numbers to compare with my sample?
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No.1
I have no serial numbers, I found some references in photos and a text that explain this. I will check them and I will tell you. I can tell you that I have found pictures from model P-38J-15 in Interior Green, so I consider this as reference. Let me check it. By the way, what version will you do? I have it, so I can look for it.
Another point about Minicraft model, you need to sand off (to get flat) oval mirrors (polished metal) in engine nacelles. I don't know Minicraft do this, and if your P-38 is a J-25 to model L, you can leave compresibility flaps on the wings. They are molded, but in early models (before J-20), is important to remove them.
Well, I check my books tonight, and tomorrow I scan them.
See you :)
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Very possibly is that my kit will be made as sample machine P-38J-10-LO, s/n 42-67685, flown by Maj. Joseph Myers, November 1943.
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Work on landing gear bay
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Nice job mate! :-clap :-ok
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Thank you ;)
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Good, very good No.1
I just found my information, last night. I will scan it today, and post it.
I did a mistake, well two. Yes, I have serial number list (I forgot I have it) and dive flaps for compresibility was installed since block J-25. Also, aileron tab was removed because aileron was boosted by new hydraulic system on wings.
Well, see you soon
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All right, I am waiting your input what to change on this kit :-ok You are very kind :-clap
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This is looking really great and the PE is top-notch. I've been looking unsucessfully for a Hasegawa P-38 kit in my collection to compare with yours. The photoetch really is bringing yours to life!
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This is main power of the kit :) Is there any upgrade set for Hasegawa?
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I don't know if any upgrades were made for the Hasegawa kit. It was molded in the 1990s if I recall. I do remember it is an earlier version. I'll dig through some boxes this weekend to find it.
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After making one boom with direct instructions steps, I decide to change this and make in more easy and more precise way. I assemble boom and landing gear bay separately and then push bay in boom without any problem. I also change order of etched parts placing in landing gear bay, I complete all plastic parts first, and put four etched parts from above, deep inside. This also pass easy. One thing I forget to do before boom assembly is cooling flaps, I decide to alter them and make area ready for later etched parts elements.
I skip completely mounting of landing gear as suggested by instruction and find much better to place it at the very end.
Last two images present final assembly of wings with cockpit inside. In first step I put stabdard cement from tube in pins and holes and after that I will pour liquid cement over all join lines.
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Good progress mate! :-clap
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Hello No.1,
Sorry by delay. I had a busy day yesterday in the office (my scanner is here, and I can scan my books in a little chances). :-red :-red
Well, this is what I have and I hope it helps you.
I scanned this book from 1968, it has very rare photos. Mainly, you can find what I was telling you about seat color. All cockpit interior is Interior Green as point of comparation.
http://www.dogfightmoldel.com/p38/P-38 Lightning - A pictorical history.pdf
I would like to show some photos as future reference about seat and back plate in early model previous J model. But, I have found some units with dark tone in black-white photos in L and M models.
Well, these photos comes from In Detail & Scale book of Bert Kinzey. It it about of restoration of Glacier Girl (P-38F), he was recovered as it was found it. So, I am confident that it is an excellent reference about color applied it!! Olive drab!!
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Detail & Scale 57 - P38 Lightning Part140.jpg)
But, I found some -G model with a dark tone in other books. In a color photo, there is no doubt and in B&W is possible to compare it with headrest. This is what I have.
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Cabina a color.PNG)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Captura.PNG)
In Fighter Command book, you can find these.......
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Acolor1.jpg)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Acolor2.jpg)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Acolor3.jpg)
One more in B&W from model -G (Rex Barber, pilot)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/Barber0001.png)
Talking about serial number, I share this to pages from Wardbird Tech book, you can see in plans view a note, doing reference to a serial number. It is from J-25 block series. Not -20 as I had described
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/P-38 serial number0001.jpg)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/P-38 J-L plans0001.jpg)
Finally, landing gears.........
I think it is the best reference for you in this time. In NASM, P-38J-10 is displayed in a unrestored condition. So, we can pay attention of colors of landing gears and internal covers, as were painted in wartime. Sadly I have two photos by now that I show this. I would like to have inner views.
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/P-38 in Smithsonian 1.PNG)
(http://www.dogfightmodel.com/p38/DSC08108.jpg)
One point more, check that oval mirror in engine nacelles are flat, not as Minicraft mold them. You have to remove them, take a look in last photo.
I hope this information helps you now and mates in a near future.
Thanks
P.S. Sorry about high resolution in some photos, but I believe it is better to check some details very clear.
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Excellent images and it show Lightning perfectly! Tomorrow will make changes in color of the interior, make few more details and close with front parts,
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Really great images mate!! :-clap :-clap
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Thanks to you, mates.
I forgot to indicate that dive flaps must be sand from model. But, it is curious if you watch left side of last pictures, it has dive flaps being a J-10 model. So I think may be it was upgraded in its service in USAAF in the USA.
As I mentioned before, from J-25 block were installed dive flaps.
If you need more details, please don't hesitate to ask for them, anybody of you.
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Yes, the maneuver flaps could be installed as part of a field-modification kit. This can make it hard to decide whether your airplane had them or not.......because some few J-10s and -15s also had them.
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I look at that flaps yesterday and did not know what to do. No additional images of machine I have to do, only one available.
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Main sections assembled and all join lines coated with Mr. Surfacer 500
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No.1
Great, :-ok :-ok :-jump
Scott,
Thanks for your input. This is something I always suppose about J-10 and -15 models.
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One reference I've read mentions that many of the field modification kits were lost in transit. If that were true then not too many 10s or 15s would have gotten the modification.
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Work on nose assembly ;) A bit tricky, need assistance of clamps :-danger
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Good!! Any P-38 scale model is not easy to be built it. You need clamps and a lof of patience to align it at all.
See you
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Comming along nicely though!
Ernie
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Thank you friends :-ok Obviously I need patience :))
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Thank you friends :-ok Obviously I need patience :))
I think that is something most all of us could use a little of........I know I sure could!!
Ernie
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Weight add into the nose and then nose is closed and engines get front cover. Due to the shape perfections, last step was overcoat of the liquid filler and then standard filler. Now I wait this to dry and give strong sanding push and I will need to use very 'heavy' grain in first sanding steps.
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I like it!!!
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Thank you friends :-ok In the meantime it is sanded and next step is to draw with pencil all panels lines and scribe them again.
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Now I am in stage of assembly of many small elements and there is a lot of job to do but nothing hard.
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Good!! I see you spent some time sanding off to get engines "on shape"
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Looks very good mate! :-clap
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Thank you friends :)) Yes, there is much sanding work....
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This one is interesting- olive drab nacelles and neutral grey wings :-clap
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No.1
These Lightning were dressed in Natural Metal Finish, with nose and nacelles anti-glares in OD. We can see them very faded.
Actually, you can see drop tank on left-middle of photo, and it's painted in Neutral gray.
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I see this mate. See also frame of cockpit, metal airplane in background as well never drop tank (I think less exposed to sun light and look darker). I guess the most in unit was as you say but this one does not look like that. Fade metal also look different. Never mind, Hardly that we can do anything with this, we need more images.
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I check it out again and realize that your point is actually precise- it is very fade out aluminum color. Only inner side of engine is olive drab. Sorry :(
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Good progress, No.1.
Now that I'm getting over the influenza attack (not fun.....) I'll try to find my old kit before you've finished this one!
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I am also under pain and temperature last days but surviving somehow
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No.1
No problem, but checking what you say about fade metal, I think may be this unit was painted in aluminium dope (shiny appearance of Lightning at background, make me think that, aluminium paint has this kind of spot shine vs. natural metal finish). I don't remember if this Lightnings were in Italy in MTO. Let me look for more details........
Scott,
I was on influenza attack one year ago, and it is not fun at all. Take care of you, and follow your Doctor directions.
See you mates
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Thanks for comments mate :)) Here you are my progress...
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Looks good! :-ok Wheel bays are great!! :-ok
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I hope this strain of flu doesn't make it into your home, Memitus. It's quite strong and long-lasting!!
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nice work my friend
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Thank you friends :)
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I hope that images talk for it self :)) Additional etched set is also Eduard product make for this kit ;)
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This is great!! :-clap
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Waouw!!! Stunning!!! :-ok
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Thank you :))
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That gear door structure is really great!
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Yes, it is! I need to cement all hinge elements and then to put it on place. But before that I need to put compressor elements, then need some pressure and with door on kit, this would not be possible.
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Precision work...
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Thank you :))
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Wow, a lot of work to do with Eduard's extra parts.....I'm taking note for my P-38's kits
Well done, No.1
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Thank you mate :))
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Good job mate!! :-clap :-clap
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Thank you ;) I did more in meantime but did not make images, will make this tomorrow.
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Landing gear doors... :-danger tricky work
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And very good! :-clap :-ok
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Ok, I agree, one of most complex parts to glue!!
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Slow preparation for painting :)) If nothing special happen, I will make basic coat tomorrow and then go to 'stand by' until receive paint
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Nice mate! :-clap :-ok
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What an enhanced kit! :-love :-love :-love
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Thank you friends :-ok Last night kit as well kit parts, get a coat of Surfacer and just few minutes ago I have paint what I can do in moment. Now wait for grey camouflage color to continue work and in the meantime I will give more priority to other projects.
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Thank you :)) few details, nothing special ;)
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Progress is progress! :)) :-clap
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Very soon I will paint it, just to get paint...
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Little by little, are made the great projects!! :-ok
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Thank you friends :)
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I found my old Hasegawa P-38E finally. I started this in the 1990s but only got this far. Here are a couple of photos of some parts for comparison:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1364_zps93f88c4d.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_1363_zpscfb2c9f9.jpg)
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This kit look so good!
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Nice kit indeed...
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It's not bad for a kit produced in 1993.
However, that old kit isn't why we're here--can't wait for the next progress report after paint arrives, No.1!! :-ok
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And here we are :))
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It looks very good!! :-clap
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Great! :-ok
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Now it's coming together!
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Very gooood!! No.1 :-ok :-ok :-ok
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Thank you friends :))
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Decal works :))
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Decals completed :))
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Final steps...
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I like it in camouflage!!!
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Me too!!! :-ok
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Thank you friends :)) It have clear varnish now and look even better. Images show resin wheels, kit with wheels and last show trim side windows. Original kit demand closed windows so I decide to show it with open and this mean that I must cut side windows and show just small parts (as well they slide in fuselage).
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Cool! :-clap
Finish line is so close!! :-ok
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Beautiful!
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Last touch...
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And completed...
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Excellent :-clap :-clap
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Very nice... The Lightning is one of my favourite WWII airplane, and you gived this one justice!
Congratulations: excellent work! :-ok
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Thank you friends :-ok
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Real beauty!! :-clap :-clap :-clap
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Thank you :))
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Great No.1!!
One model completed to your collection, one less in the stash!!
See you mates!!
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Thank you :))
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Great job, No.1!
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Thank you :))
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Final words :))
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2013/02/16/eduards-lightnings/
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Hi mate, :-salut
Waoohh ! Amazing. Very good rendering for a beautiful plane. :-ok
Jicehem :-wave
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Thank you mate :-ok
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Now its is time for a photo update!
One last part to come....
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Here is the 2nd and last batch of images.
I hope you'll enjoy the show!!
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Wonderful images :-clap :-ok
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