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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 11:04:10 AM

Title: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 11:04:10 AM
Run Kilian Run.... to the toy store  :-green

Alright i will buy some tools now. A tweezers i have, a sharp knive (maybe thats not good to cut the plastic parts?). What i need to buy: glue, putty, colors, sandpaper. Colors i will buy probably in the internet or i will have to do it with revell colors. Anything i forgot?

Its perfect to start it. Bad weather came this night and its all dark outside.
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 17, 2008, 11:19:48 AM
Great mate  :-ok You need cutter one general use and one like for the surgery for precise trimming. I suggest you to use glue in tube for first time and you have Contacta there. Revell color are the best I have ever use and please wait a little bit to make a list of color need for this kit.

Sandpaper need are- 320 grit, 600 grit, 800 grit, 1500 grit and 2500 grit.

And yes, you forget to take a beer and some good music to play  ;)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 11:25:58 AM
Ok thanks ill see what i can get for this weekend. Yes color has some time. First i need to complete the model :)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 11:58:56 AM
Great it has arrived  :-jump :-jump :-jump
Looking forward to see your first work...
Feel free to ask anything
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 01:54:05 PM
I bought some stuff  ;) And now ill listen to the Rangers game on radio. After it i will start with model  :-wave
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 17, 2008, 02:07:03 PM
 :-tri :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 02:28:47 PM
Great  :-tri
Nice stuff what is the content of Revell model set?  :-ok
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 02:48:40 PM
Great  :-tri
Nice stuff what is the content of Revell model set?  :-ok

3 quality paintbrushes (0/3/5), Brush Cleaner /14 ml), 2 pipettes
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
Great  :-ok thanks I haven't seen that product jet...
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 03:56:17 PM
@Samuraj
For what is part E4 and E29? Its so tiny. Do i need it for something else or can i just glue it on :)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 04:12:35 PM
E 4 and E 29 are parts located inside the cockpit and I think they are some kind of throttle control or something like that.
You need do color those parts and thats it
Watch out for parts E 13 and E 5 they can't stand on the place they should cause the cockpit floor can't fit then so you need to test fit before you glue your parts.
I think you can see that on the photos on my I-16 topic  :-wave
Hope I have been of some assistance
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 05:20:32 PM
Yes thank you. How can i solve this decal thing? with hot water? i need it for cockpit instruments now

Edit: Ok worked :)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
first cut the decal you need and dip it in a pot with warm water for 15-30 sec and then gently with your finger slide it on the surface you need to apply it ,position it and pres it with some cotton fabric (I use old T-shirt or cotton picks for cleaning ears ).The process is the same for all decals
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 06:02:35 PM
some documentation...
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 06:08:07 PM
...i think the eduards building manual is not very logic in one point. I would have first fitted the pilots seat before the instrument panel. I will stop at this point. I will need to buy colors for the seat :)

Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 06:15:44 PM
It looks good but really outstanding for the first kit.
You should check the seat is it glued?It shouldn't stand like that...
Try to use smaller amounts of glue,glue that we use melts the styrene plastics and you should be extra careful.
Great job just go on... :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 07:39:24 PM
yes its glued. This could be problem :) i will see. I had also made one mistake. Had to remove one exhaust pipe :) but then ive seen i have 2 more than i need in the kit so i could have done both sides with 2 pipes each.
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 17, 2008, 09:23:54 PM
Some images- hope they will help. Preserved sample is from Spain.
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 17, 2008, 09:32:12 PM
Maybe this will be interesting to note. Some soviet pilots that had to fight hard in Spain published their memories. But only Boris Smirnov book related about first downed Messerschmitts during the Brunete battle. Despite his precise description of that battle (especially with the R-Zet), he described it as a big aerial fight over Madrid sky on 8 July 1937. But he wrote it many years on a old age, after a long service in the VVS, fighting also in Mongolia, and WWII. In his books he usually shows great precision and technical science with the description of the dogfights but he is often faulty with dates. Two possibilities: either he never participated in the battle of the 12, either and it is the more credible* he describes the first victory on a bf 109 by Piotr Burtym, a zveno commander from the 116th iae MVO. Bounced by MOSCAS of the Chevtsov escadrilia, G Honess had not time to run away as its colleagues an was soon (easily) outmaneuvered and shot down by the soviet pilot.

As Burtym succeeded to fire on the pilot at a shorted distance, the Messerschmitt immediately went down from a 2500m height and crashed in the nationalist area.

On the same day, (it has nothing to do about our story, but might be interesting) a Tupolev SB was shoot down over Segovia in a recce mission suppository by Rolf Pingel. The pilot and navigator were maid POW, and gunner MIA. The were condemned to death and survived to several simulated executions before they were exchanged in 1939 and returned back to USSR.

Another sole SB was pursuit by two fiat on a recce mission over the port of Palma. This time it suddenly turned back and boom-zoomed Italians fighters itself! Back at the airbase the crew claimed a victory on 1 "fiat".

Probably very embarrassed, nationalists 'till that day begun night intruder missions over Republican territory. It's all for the 12.
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 17, 2008, 09:59:58 PM
great photos mate! Thank you. As far as i can see the model is very accurate  ;)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Profa on May 17, 2008, 10:21:52 PM
Considering this is your first model, it's coming together really well :)
Great photos, No.1, these gonna be really helpful to me once in future ;)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: samuraj77 on May 17, 2008, 10:44:06 PM
Great photos,unfortunately a bit too late for me :(
Cockpit floor of the kit is inaccurate as seen on the photo with instrument panel there is no floor on the sides. I tried to mask it with painting gray those sides that should be cut away. I'll fix this on other Eduard's I-16 I intend to build  :))
Another mismatch made by Eduard is the port wheel well  that should have a kind of window, circled on the photo bellow :-wave
Overall kit is excellent and you made a great choice  :-ok
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 18, 2008, 07:53:38 AM
Profa- you are probably consider to have Hasegawa kit as well you are working 1/72 scale only?
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Profa on May 18, 2008, 11:38:05 AM
@No.1: Right now I have 80+ kits in the stash, so this little fella is going to wait for some time until I even purchase it...
Only after it comes to the line I'll consider the manufacturer  :-roll ... That's why I said "once in the future"... :-/
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 18, 2008, 07:19:06 PM
Hi mates. Look in this thread please. There are some drawings from I-16

http://www.worldwar1aeroplanesinc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=365
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 18, 2008, 08:04:36 PM
Have you download them?
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 18, 2008, 09:29:24 PM
yes  :-green
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: No.1 on May 18, 2008, 11:08:22 PM
Scans from Soviet magazines.
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Letipapa on May 22, 2008, 01:04:43 AM
Wingman! Wingman! Yeeaaaah! Man, You started, excellent! :-ok :-tri :-tri :-wave
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Wingman81 on May 29, 2008, 07:13:02 PM
My I-16 has to make a little pause. I have too much to do with moving out of my flat and find a successor for it  ;)
Title: Re: My first Model : Polikarpov I-16 type 10 1/48 Eduard
Post by: Letipapa on June 02, 2008, 11:14:44 PM
Take it easy, there is no rush. Wish You luck with a flat. :-wave