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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Second Air Force on March 12, 2014, 06:40:23 PM

Title: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 12, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
My desk is clear of projects right now and I can start this project. This is a kit that has been on my "to-do" list for some time, the Trumpeter F-13 in 1/48. I have always liked the thin lines of the early MiG 21! Just a few photos of the trees and other items:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/F-13Start004_zps75e16005.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/F-13Start004_zps75e16005.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/F-13Start003_zps88a24928.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/F-13Start003_zps88a24928.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/F-13Start005_zpsbf67b216.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/F-13Start005_zpsbf67b216.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 12, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
This will be wonderful to watch, one of the missing types on the modeling board ;)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Ernie on March 12, 2014, 07:37:08 PM
Very interesting build, I will be following for sure!
Ernie
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 15, 2014, 10:10:42 PM
So today I have started on this project. The cockpit parts and canopy inside frames got their coat of light blue. The "YF-110" that was tested by the USAF had this early color rather than the common Soviet interior green. I mixed a bit of grey with some RLM76 to get the shade I was looking for.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/Donutstart001_zpsc8fbe2dc.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/Donutstart001_zpsc8fbe2dc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 15, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Good interior ;)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 16, 2014, 12:22:35 AM
Yes, I think it will be nice--maybe not quite as detailed as the Eduard series, but good just the same.

I'm planning this as an out-of-box build, so only the small amount of photoetch that comes with the kit will be used. Next up is to start the wheelwells. ;)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 17, 2014, 05:11:20 AM
Further work on this project, first to build up the nose gear well and then the main fuselage wheelwells. Afterwards a coat of Anodic Grey Metalizer topped off with a thinned wash of RLM02 to give these areas the proper tinted effect:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutContinued001002_zps61f4b831.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutContinued001002_zps61f4b831.jpg.html)

Next was to continue with the assembly of the cockpit and ejection seat. Again, I used only the parts in the kit, including the PE seatbelts. I am of the opinion that these should be somewhat wider.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutContinued001008_zps2b9fc8ab.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutContinued001008_zps2b9fc8ab.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutContinued001004_zps83858d9a.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutContinued001004_zps83858d9a.jpg.html)

While the cockpit parts were drying I prepared the fuselage halves by installing the engine, wheelwells and intake spike assembly that had been pre-painted. Once everything was ready the fuselage halves were glued together and some test-fitting of the vertical fin and canopy parts occurred. While that was drying I opened the appropriate holes in the wing panels for pylons etc. and glued them together. This is a really nice-fitting kit and it doesn't appear that I'll need much putty on joints!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutContinued001009_zps00b966d0.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutContinued001009_zps00b966d0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 17, 2014, 05:44:42 AM
Wonderful progress and look and I really like how the landing gear section look like!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 17, 2014, 03:31:26 PM
I also like this and the details are sharply defined.

In some areas they could have designed the molds better. Notice the large locating sockets on the two main landing gear doors. These will show when the gear is assembled and should really be corrected for a show quality model. There are only a couple of places where this was done on the kit, not hard to fix. The surface detail on the balance is really nice and the engraved lines and fasteners are nicely done.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Akinator98 on March 17, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Nice!:)))
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 17, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Ernie on March 17, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
Coming along very nicely! Looks like Trumpeter did a nice job on this one :-ok
Ernie
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 17, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
Yep, I think so too! Some other manufacturers could learn from how Trumpeter packages their kits. The clear fret of parts is carefully wrapped in foam and then in a plastic bag. The box is very compact but the parts are well protected.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: modellius on March 18, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
looks promising !
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: draken35 on March 20, 2014, 10:32:21 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 21, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
Thanks, friends!

So little time right now for modeling....... :-/ I'm planting vegetables and working on the car so not much time spent on this MiG. Here is a small update on it, though--I've done some small Metalizer testing on the aft fuselage. I decided to paint the vertical and horizontal surfaces separate from the fuselage and then assemble the pre-painted sections:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/MiGDonuttail002_zps3efa4e95.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/MiGDonuttail002_zps3efa4e95.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 21, 2014, 05:39:30 PM
Metalizer.... must get one pack for me one day :(
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: draken35 on March 22, 2014, 08:30:59 PM
Very nice result, Scott!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 22, 2014, 09:42:46 PM
I am really testing on this section........trying to see if the surface can be prepared for Metalizer without a coat of primer first. The kit is molded fairly smoothly so a light sanding with 4000 grit MicroMesh sandpaper seems to give the base needed. I've since sprayed the vertical fin and horizontal stabilizers with a coat and started to buff various panels. More work needed to get the varied finish of the real airplane, but the idea is going as I'd hoped.

Every time I build a NMF model I try something new or at least try to improve on old methods. It's really not so much fun to do natural metal for me...... :-help
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 23, 2014, 05:26:55 AM
As I mentioned in the last post, testing is underway. Here you can see the aft fuselage temporarily assembled to study the variety of aluminum shades needed:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/Paintprogress002_zps53a70b01.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/Paintprogress002_zps53a70b01.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 23, 2014, 05:45:00 AM
Test goes perfect as I can see ;)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: draken35 on March 23, 2014, 09:09:51 AM
Great work!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 23, 2014, 03:48:00 PM
The test has had some problems along the way, but it's working better now. One good thing about Metalizer is that you can usually spray a new coat over mistakes and repair bad areas easily. The pigment is so thin that it doesn't build up into thick paint like enamel or acryl.

I'll use the horizontal stabilizers as an example of how to get the different shades of aluminum: First the surfaces were made completely smooth with 4000 grit sandpaper. Then I washed the parts throughly and dried them. No primer was applied (this is, in part, due to the excellent molding of the kit parts--no filler was needed at the join seams!) and a coat of Aluminum Metalizer was sprayed. This goes on with a slightly rough finish. Next step was to put on cloth gloves (skin oils leave huge fingerprints on Metalizer) and very carefully polish the shiny areas with a soft cloth. This was where I made mistakes the first time. I simply reapplied Metalizer and started over. After the varigated colors were achieved the entire surface received a coat of Metalizer Sealer. With the sealer sprayed on the parts can be handled during assembly without removing the Metalizer or adding fingerprints. On the wings I will be using two shades of Metalizer, Stainless Steel and Aluminum. This will be in the next step......
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 24, 2014, 06:19:36 PM
Last night was a good time to work on the landing gear units. These build-up quite easily but you must be careful to get the right angle on the doors, both the bending of the lower portion and the angle that they sit on the strut:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutPainting005_zps215f68a0.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutPainting005_zps215f68a0.jpg.html)

Then it was on to the wing painting. First the stainless steel was mixed with some aluminum to get the right shade and this was sprayed onto the appropriate areas. Next I polished this and applied some Metalizer Sealer to the areas painted:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutPainting001_zpsa3624254.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutPainting001_zpsa3624254.jpg.html)

Next step was to get out my panel masks that had been carefully cut out earlier. As it turned out I also used thin strips of Tamiya masking tape (with the adhesive effect lessened so as not to mar the paint) around the edges of the two panels on top and bottom of each wing. Then it was easy to spray aluminum and polish this color. After the right aluminum finish was attained the masking material was removed and a final coat of Sealer applied all-over the surfaces:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutPainting002_zps605576e0.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutPainting002_zps605576e0.jpg.html)

Next up, the fuselage!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 24, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
This is important to know that tape does not effect to surface ;)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: draken35 on March 24, 2014, 08:11:15 PM
Fabulous...
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 25, 2014, 06:00:53 AM
This is important to know that tape does not effect to surface ;)

I've found that Tamiya tape works well providing you do three things: 1. Spray a coat of Metalizer Sealer over the parts you will mask, 2. Relieve some of the sticky from the tape before applying it to the surface, and 3. be very careful when removing the tape when you're done painting.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 25, 2014, 06:03:08 AM
Thanks for info, something similar I do when work with standard colors
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 25, 2014, 06:13:58 AM
Yes, me too! I used to try to mask Metalizer without the sealer coat but that is not possible, also the harsher tapes stick too hard and will even lift up the sealer! Tamiya tape works very well now that I use it.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 26, 2014, 07:02:13 PM
Final main painting step, the fuselage.....:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/DonutCont003_zpsbc593880.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/DonutCont003_zpsbc593880.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 26, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
Excellent finish!!!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on March 31, 2014, 01:42:20 AM
Here is the finished MiG, in the colors of the USAF "YF-110" as tested at Groom Lake. This airplane had been flown from Egypt to Israel by a defecting pilot and was then sent on to the U.S. after the Israelis had examined and tested it. The USAF gave it the name YF-110 and put it through a long series of tests, studying it for weaknesses and strengths. The test remarks are quite interesting to read. Here are links to a couple of articles:
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB443/docs/area51_49.PDF
http://notreally.info/transport/planes/have_doughnut/img//have_doughnut_havedoughnutside
I used these for most of the images during the build.

I must say, the Trumpeter kit was a joy to put together! :-ok It offers a fairly relaxed build with one exception, getting the opened canopy properly installed. I made two small metal rods to hold it up and another small support wire at the hinging point. Other than that it's pretty much out-of-the-box:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/YF-110finished004_zpsa81d6376.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/YF-110finished004_zpsa81d6376.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/YF-110finished010_zpsbafa8b83.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/YF-110finished010_zpsbafa8b83.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/YF-110finished007_zps0eac742f.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/YF-110finished007_zps0eac742f.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/YF-110finished017_zpsd021f423.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/YF-110finished017_zpsd021f423.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/YF-110finished012_zpsd34384b3.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/YF-110finished012_zpsd34384b3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: No.1 on March 31, 2014, 06:32:03 AM
Excellent work mate!
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Ernie on March 31, 2014, 06:10:16 PM
Looks super!!!! :-ok :-obey Nice job on the bare metal, and also showing the steps you use. Thank you for that!
Ernie
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: draken35 on April 06, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Tweety on April 08, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
Natural metal ! Excellent work ! Guys, I must learn from you all  :-salut :-ok :-obey :-jump
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: ta152c on December 23, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
Thats a lovely rendition and the markings make it stand out.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on December 25, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
Thanks!
I really want to do another in  Soviet markings.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: ta152c on December 25, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
I see they've brought out a MiG-21UM, had a look at it yesterday. Seems a really nice kit.

Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Second Air Force on December 26, 2014, 01:16:58 AM
Yes, and I've been wanting to do a two seater! If it is as good as the F13 it'll be excellent.
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: Akinator98 on January 11, 2015, 08:13:12 PM
Everything is so perfect.Bravo! :-clap
Title: Re: MiG 21F-13 by Trumpeter
Post by: modellius on January 19, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
nice