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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2012, 07:09:18 PM »
Nice result mate, very nice :-ok

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2012, 08:38:48 PM »
Thank you! It was a fun build and gave me experience in this conversion that'll be handy later.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2012, 09:40:00 PM »
Excellent,i like it!! :-clap

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2012, 07:00:40 PM »
On to the second conversion, this time a Bf-109D.

The C and D used a larger radiator so the "chin" scoop and radiator bath are somewhat larger than the B series. The Classic Airframes kit I have is the C/D and so I'm applying the entire firewall forward from the CA model to an Academy B. The first step is the same as the first conversion, cutting off the cowling section. Then the upper cowl from the CA kit is fitted. Once the principal fitting is satisfactory the cockpit assembly is completed and the fuselage halves glued together. Then the wing goes on to help with aligning the new nose. The next step is to securely tack-glue and tape the new upper cowl to the assembled fuselage. Then the H/A radiator bath is removed.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_0308.jpg
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After trimming off all the unneeded styrene the next step is to fit the CA lower cowling with radiator bath to the fuselage, matching it carefully with the new upper cowl. Once I'm satisfied with this fit, the lower segment is glued in place and some filler used to fair it to the wing root area.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_0309.jpg
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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2012, 09:01:20 PM »
Hhhhmmmm.... if you plan to do Spanish version again I think I have interesting sample for you ;)

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2012, 09:14:29 PM »
I will be doing at least one more Spanish machine, probably more if your sample isn't the same airplane! ;)

I forgot to mention on the earlier post that I've opened up the three vents in the forward upper cowling on this one. The first model was a very early machine and these vents did not yet exist. After opening the vents I fabricated a false engine block that will be visible through the openings.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2012, 09:49:56 PM »
And how about this one?

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2012, 10:51:32 PM »
Great eye, No.1!

I've given a lot of thought to this splinter. I have wondered if the colors were the same as the bombers sent to Spain--RLM 61, 62, and 63 on wings and stabilizers with 63 on the fuselage. Many possible choices here.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2012, 05:59:54 AM »
I think about this three colors too but instead of green can be easy RLM 02, in this way we should consider Ian Huntley research where he state that used colors on top are lighter grey.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2012, 04:52:37 PM »
I think about this three colors too but instead of green can be easy RLM 02, in this way we should consider Ian Huntley research where he state that used colors on top are lighter grey.

Lighter grey as you state should be RLM 63. We can think this camo was locally applied amd may also be made of Spanish colors... which were not the same than German ones. That was the case for many He 51 after the end of the civil war. Is the date of this photograph known ?

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2012, 05:13:30 PM »
I accept all of your points mate. Date of image is not known but it is known that Spain get some specific colors for their airplanes, in first time that was three color (Ocher, Green and Brown) and later in service remained only two of them. One page with images of this colors:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/06/02/museo-del-air-at-cuatro-vientos/

In this way is possible that lighter new color is sand and dark one is green and all of this over pale grey. Just wait some moment to find article made by Ian Huntley, he give excellent remarks about this subjects.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2012, 05:58:02 PM »
I also agree, JC.

In fact, regarding when this photo was taken, I am of the opinion (for what it's worth, bear in mind) that this picture may have been taken after the airplane was handed over to the Spanish forces. My reasoning for this is the slight discoloration just in front of the numeral 6 where the top hat insignia would normally be (if in Legion Condor service). That is a tenuous supposition, but something I offer as a possibility until or unless we ever find solid documentation of a date.


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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2012, 09:25:39 AM »
All right, check out download section :))

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2012, 04:31:06 PM »
Huntley's article identifies the pale grey (Perleweiss) used in between-war Germany, and that alone is a great find.

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Re: Jumo Powered Bf-109s In 1/48
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2012, 04:43:19 PM »
This pale grey is used as overall color too :))