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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: draken35 on July 02, 2011, 01:32:12 PM

Title: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 02, 2011, 01:32:12 PM
OK guys, I open the topic with the kit I've finally choosen: the Rafale Marine from Revell at 1/144th scale. Sure a tiny one, but don't mind in any way that it will be a fast build... There are many parts, that are very fine, and a good result will ask for some work...

First phase done: all parts removed from the sprues, and some of them glued.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 02, 2011, 01:54:24 PM
Nice start mate- I will join somehow :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Profa on July 02, 2011, 01:58:32 PM
I'm following, but not joining - don't have anything in my stash from this category, and want first to finish all the work in progress (8+ models)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on July 02, 2011, 03:26:33 PM
I'm in the same situation as Profa (only six projects unfinished, though)--and I haven't finished my June G.B. project yet......... :-paper :-roll

This looks like a very nice kit!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 02, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
Finally!! :-jump :-jump :-love :-love :-love :-tri :-tri :-tri :-obey :-obey :-salut :-salut :)) :)) :-ok :-ok :-wave :-wave :-flo :-flo :-smey :-smey
I will join with Hasegawa F-15E 1/72 kit.
But,i will start build when i finish MiG-21, it means for 3 or 4 days.
First thing i must done,is rescribe all panels on kit,and try to find resin cockpit. If i don't,i will use decals for cockpit,which are given in the box.

Happy work! :-jump
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 02, 2011, 04:33:55 PM
Nice choice, Sall!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 02, 2011, 04:40:14 PM
Only way to join this group build is to try to repair this kit. I get it two years ago from friend, some kid try to make it and did not make it...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 02, 2011, 04:52:10 PM
Thanks Daniel! :-flo
Srecko,it think that it is great idea! I love :-love :-love :-love :-love :-love Rafale,and ,in this group build we have 2 of them! It is so nice!!! :-jump
Can you tell me something about kit? :-think
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 02, 2011, 05:00:36 PM
More than that, it's a "C" and not an "M". Excellent idea! The kit is nice (I own an exemplar) but you will have also to rescribe a lot, like Sall...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 02, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
Well,what we have to do,it is not difficult. :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 02, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
To be honest I don't know anything about the kit but it look like I will search for drawings for re-scribing :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2011, 09:26:45 AM
Unfortunately kit I have miss several small parts so hardly that I can complete this...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 07, 2011, 10:58:26 AM
 :( :( :-wall :-wall
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 07, 2011, 06:39:53 PM
Unfortunately kit I have miss several small parts so hardly that I can complete this...

I can give you the mine if you wish... Or send you the missing parts...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2011, 06:40:41 PM
Will talk with you about this :)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
I get idea but don't know will you agree with me. It is possible to convert this kit into Yugoslav project 'Novi avion'. More info here:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=749

What do you think? Problem is that this never flew and no sample were ever built
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 07, 2011, 08:16:18 PM
That would be great idea Srecko. :-tri :-tri
I'm with you!
Novi avion was project by JNA,and it present small version of Franch Rafale.
I would like to see on our group build. It is so great idea!! :-tri :-tri :-tri
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
All right, lets see what others think ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 07, 2011, 09:23:15 PM
Good idea; I have no objection. And once again, my kit is at your disposal...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
All right- I will try to do something with this what I have ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 07, 2011, 11:50:50 PM
Hardly wait to see begin and progres on Novi Avion. When we can expect begin? :-think :-tri :-tri
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 08, 2011, 01:00:02 AM
Hardly wait to see begin and progres on Novi Avion. When we can expect begin? :-think :-tri :-tri

In the April 2067, 2.56 AM :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 09, 2011, 10:21:45 AM
Basic kit is sliced off.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 09, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
Wow! Hard surgery... ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 09, 2011, 11:08:27 AM
Very hard, need to make single engined machine from twin engine... and this is all I can do in bed
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 09, 2011, 11:17:24 AM
Very hard, need to make single engined machine from twin engine... and this is all I can do in bed

Hope you'll be fit and well quickly...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 09, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Me too :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 09, 2011, 12:13:13 PM
This will be hard job,no doubt! :-roll
I hope you will be in top form soon! ;) :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 09, 2011, 08:16:07 PM
I finally find cockpit for my F-15E! :-tri :-jump Now,i can start build! :-jump :-jump
More precisely, tomorrow starts build. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 09, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Good catch, Sall!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 10, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
A lot of technical drawings...  ;)
Now,i start work on re-scribering! :-roll
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 10, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
Sounds like good documentation...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 10, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
Sounds like good documentation...

Good base for headache :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 10, 2011, 09:16:55 PM
 :)) :))
Actually,no! ;)
For now,this goes excellent. I'm very satisfied.  :-flo
There is one mistake, "DD" side have one mistake,but i will repair it tomorrow,with filler and acetone. :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 11, 2011, 06:37:41 AM
Nice...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 11, 2011, 10:58:59 AM
Plastic bending work for making of rear fuselage.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 11, 2011, 11:04:27 AM
This is soooo interesting!!! :-jump :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on July 11, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
These big surgical procedures are always an adventure for the builder, too! At first it looks like the whole process will be impossible, but after getting it to the stage where No.1 has it you begin to see the final shape coming into focus. It's really quite exciting to see the contours starting to appear.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 11, 2011, 05:35:14 PM
Hard work but interresting one...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 11, 2011, 05:43:17 PM
Thanks :)) Warp around rear ring  :-danger
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 11, 2011, 06:00:51 PM
 :-eek :-eek :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 12, 2011, 12:42:30 AM
"DD" side repaired! Now it is ok,and correct! :-ok
I moved to the wings. Works continuing tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 12, 2011, 06:35:26 AM
Well done, Sall!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 12, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
Reinforcing inside :)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 12, 2011, 04:02:20 PM
So cool! :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 12, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
Surgery... ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 12, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
Ha ha ha :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 13, 2011, 05:07:07 PM
White primer on my Rafale
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 13, 2011, 05:26:54 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 13, 2011, 05:42:53 PM
Good,good! ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 19, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
After few days without progress, today i finished wings on both sides. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 19, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
And result is good mate :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 19, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
Thank you much! :-ok
I think that my skill is much better then on Hornet,and especially on Mirage III. :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 19, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
Well done!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on July 19, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
Very precise, Sall.

Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 25, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
Little progress! ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 25, 2011, 09:58:34 PM
Little yes but very nice!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 26, 2011, 08:23:51 PM
One more little step! :)) ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 26, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
Very good mate :-ok I am not informed about this aircraft, I always thought that inside is light grey
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on July 26, 2011, 09:11:57 PM
Gooood!!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 26, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
I found some photos,and it is dark grey.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 27, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
About cockpit of F-15E...
Dark grey,almost black... ;)
(http://bruce.smart-site.net/Models/F-15/images/Z-15.jpg)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on July 27, 2011, 06:00:26 PM
Thank you for info mate :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on July 27, 2011, 06:27:22 PM
All for modeling colleague! :)) :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on August 10, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
Little progress today on re-scribering. Tomorrow continue! ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on August 10, 2011, 10:00:44 PM
Good work, Sall!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on August 10, 2011, 10:12:40 PM
Crisp!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on August 10, 2011, 10:36:20 PM
There are some lines writen with pencil. I must to re-scribed it tomorrow. Part about engine is scribed,other lines are just lines.
I must to re-scribe the whole plane,then i will open some panels,and put inside some electronic ,witch is conected with radar. Will see how it look in the end! ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 09, 2011, 08:47:15 PM
Hey guys! :-wave
On eye everything is the same as the previous picture. But ... The whole back of the upper side of the re-scribed, in contrast to the previous image, where only back part of engine was re-scribed,everything else was lines drawn in pencil. :-flo
Sorry for bad picture. :-wall My camera is not at home,so i made pics from my phone,but i'm limited with size of the image at 200kb. This one have only 71kb,but in next level of quality which is much better it takes 380kb. :-bat Better pictures you can expect in Sunday. ;) :-flo
Works continue tomorrow. I hope... :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 09, 2011, 09:16:27 PM
You make really nice progress and maybe good that you make brake, everybody need to charge its energy ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 09, 2011, 09:38:22 PM
You're right. I filled my batteries, found inspiration, and now I can work nicely. :-flo
I need that break. I have lost my inspiration,but now... Now i'm perfect! ;)
Thank you for your comment. :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 09, 2011, 10:53:58 PM
Well done...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 10, 2011, 07:40:58 AM
Good to see forward movement on this GB! I'd been thinking about this one just yesterday.

Glad to hear your batteries are recharged, Sall, and we await your next update.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 12, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Thank you mates! ;)
Now,i'm cool! :-cool
More progress... :-ok First image is my work from 3 days ago(my camera is finally with me. :-tri ),and second image is my work today. I drew a line with pencil. These lines i have to re-scribe tomorrow. ;)

 :-wave
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 12, 2011, 08:28:13 PM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 12, 2011, 08:39:59 PM
Build is growing :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 18, 2011, 02:54:46 AM
Here i am... :)) :-wave
Will see what is next.. Maybe to re-scribe nose of upper side tomorrow or in next few days... :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 18, 2011, 03:46:20 AM
Good to see further work ongoing, Sall!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 18, 2011, 08:42:22 AM
Your re-scribing work is impressive!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 21, 2011, 01:25:14 AM
Small progress... Drawn lines with pencil,tomorrow scribing. :-ok First 3 images.
4th image are some decals,i bought it for 2 euros. :-ok
5th and 6th image is resin seat ACES II. I had plans to use it in A-10A,but since i have PE parts for A-10A,i will use this seat for F-15E,for the first pilot. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 21, 2011, 06:59:28 AM
Draw lines again, they are not parallel as I could see.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 21, 2011, 07:00:56 AM
You are doing a LOT of hard work on this one! Keep on with the updates as you can.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 21, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
@Srecko
It is only approximately work,just to see what i have to do... ;)
Right now i'm taking scriber in my hand and start working. More update later. :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 21, 2011, 06:22:38 PM
As we say in French: "travail de Bénédictin" (you're working as harder than a Benedictus monk)...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 21, 2011, 06:26:03 PM
Hahahaha :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 21, 2011, 06:32:26 PM
Hahahahahaha... :)) :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 22, 2011, 01:25:50 PM
Here i am... :-flo
This is work from yesterday and today morning. ;)
Pics 1st to 5th work from yesterday. Top side od fuselage is fully re-scribed. :-tri :-jump
But... :-kr As you can see,on 1st and 3rd pic there are some mistakes. :-wall -On 1st pic circle is not in right place. It must be in center of this rectangle,and mine is escaped little left. :-wall -On 3rd pic you can see that axis of symmetry for this rectangle on the nose is not in center. All of this rectangle are escaped little left. :-wall (As you can see in my head everything escape little on left. :-razz :)) )
I can not live with that. Soooo... Today i get up earlier that usual,and try to fix this mistakes. I use mixture filler and acetone,and fill this re-scribed lines.
Pics 6th and 7th are first coat of filler mixture on the nose. ;) Then i sand that with sandpaper different granulation(240,600,800).
Pic 8th is second coat of filler mixture. ;)
Pics 9th,10th,11th-everything is sanded. :-tri Now i wait that everything dry well,then i will re-scribe those panels again. Hope,this time without mistakes. :-flo
More update latter. :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Profa on September 22, 2011, 02:02:52 PM
Nice work, although I think you apply too much putty...
Now you have to be careful since it's possible that filled putty is going to crumble under scriber...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 22, 2011, 02:04:26 PM
I can just salute to you and your extra effort!!! Take care and I am sure this will be great build!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: dragan_mig31 on September 22, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
It looks great so far.A small advice for you sall.Try not to engrave the panle lines this deep.They will ruin the overall look of the kit.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 22, 2011, 06:01:23 PM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 22, 2011, 08:48:38 PM
Finally top side is finished. :-tri This days i will start work on bottom. ;)
Thank you friends for your nice words. It means me a looot! :-red
I will listen your advice about deep panels,and i will try to change it on bottom. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 25, 2011, 07:11:26 PM
I have prepared bottom side for scribing. I sand bottom with sandpaper,600 and 800 granulation. ;)
These days more progress. :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 28, 2011, 01:31:43 AM
More progress.. :-jump
Lines are drawn on the lower part, the bottom side of the fuselage. ;)
These days will be scribing. :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on September 28, 2011, 06:08:34 AM
Impressive how hard you are working on this kit!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 28, 2011, 06:26:24 AM
+1 with Srecko
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 28, 2011, 07:46:50 AM
Yes, you're really making this a maximum effort build!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on September 28, 2011, 06:21:52 PM
More progress.. :-jump
Today panels are less deep than on the top side of fuselage. ;) :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on September 28, 2011, 07:00:32 PM
 :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on September 28, 2011, 11:51:14 PM
You are a VERY patient model builder, Sall. It takes a lot of fortitude to do what you're doing. :-salut
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: dragan_mig31 on September 29, 2011, 12:37:25 AM
I like it.Just be more patient and don't prees that much on the plastic.Those panels lines are a little deep so I sujest that you use less force and a metal sheet as a guidline.You are doing a fine job :)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on October 20, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
Finally some time for modeling. :-jump
I re-scribe vertical tail parts. ;)
1st and 2nd pic is before and after removing part from frame.
3rd pic is after sanding both parts.
4th and 5th pic is after re-scribing.
Sorry for VERY bad photos. Lighting in my new apartment is bad for making good photos. :-wall I hope to rectify this in the future. :-think
There is only to finished re-scribe of the upper part on bottom, and then moving to surgery. :-ok :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on October 21, 2011, 01:26:40 AM
Carry on! :-ok :-clap :-tri
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on October 21, 2011, 07:40:23 AM
Soon or later you will start assembly this :-ok A lot of work which can be done fast and easy...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 14, 2011, 01:12:34 AM
I continue scribing.. ;) Hope finish tomorrow,and start surgery this days. :))
I can't post pics, becouse, from some reason, the internet in my house don't work. :-wall :-kr Hope that will be solved tomorrow,during the day. :-/
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on November 14, 2011, 02:30:52 AM
Well, that isn't very much good, but the lack of internet will give you more time to work on this!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 14, 2011, 06:39:20 AM
No problem...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 18, 2011, 12:31:04 AM
I put kids to sleep so i finally find time for modeling... :)) Joke!! :-joke
Tonight i will not sleep until i finish re-scribing... For now i'm here... I scribe one line which don't need to be there. I can't live with that,so i use putty and acetone, and fill that line. Going forward, night is long... :)) :-tri
Ps. Until now, i haven't solved problem about light in my house,soo... But pics are better then previous time. ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 18, 2011, 03:50:26 AM
I finished finally!!! :-tri :-tri :-jump :-jump
Now is 03:50 AM in our time,and i have to get up in 06:20, also i will not go into bed before 04:20(I have to take a shower :-flo ) ... :-dal
Now, FINALLY i'm going to surgery-open some panels,and made them. :-flo
But now, i'm going into my bed! ;)
 :-wave
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 18, 2011, 06:51:32 AM
Extra work mate :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Ernie on November 18, 2011, 02:06:47 PM
Looks good, but you did not give yourself much time for sleep!!!!!!!!!
Ernie
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 18, 2011, 02:18:11 PM
It is important that i finished re-scribing. ;)
Thanks guys! :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on November 18, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Congratulations on the all-nighter! Staying up most of the night looks like it was worthwhile.

Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on November 18, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
 :-ok

...But take care of your eyes with artificial light...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 18, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
Thanks mates! :-flo :-flo
You are right Daniel. I must take care on my eyes! ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 21, 2011, 10:25:07 AM
I am back in game with this French fighter. You have see it shown some time before as my last acquisition and it is nice chance to make kit now. Very easy to built this kit, it will take just few days to complete it.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 21, 2011, 10:31:26 AM
Nice and fast progress. As i see you start build it.. ;) Any pic of cockpit? :-think
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 21, 2011, 11:39:32 AM
I did not touch cockpit, it can be attach at the same end so I will take images in this step. My problem is that I am under pressure of orders and I am afraid that I can not take much time to work with camera but I will for sure arrange material for us here :)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 21, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
 :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 21, 2011, 12:45:39 PM
As well all inside is black and dark grey, hard that any details can be noted but at least I try to make fast match.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 21, 2011, 03:34:16 PM
As i see, seat is not bad at all... ;) I can't see detailes in cockpit... :-/
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 21, 2011, 03:48:52 PM
As I said all is in gark shades but also I did not take attention on light :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on November 21, 2011, 06:26:06 PM
 :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2011, 05:21:48 PM
Little fade out...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 23, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Preparing for primer and paint... :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
Ready for decals, it is on my desk now ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on November 23, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
Great progress!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 23, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
What paint you use? Humbrol _ _ ? :-think
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2011, 08:05:01 PM
No, Gunze Sangyo :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 23, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
Is it classic black or some very,very dark gray/black..? :)) Whatever that means. :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2011, 08:16:36 PM
I have hand brush extra dark grey and medium grey and sand it down, as well original aircraft have fade out surface.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 23, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
 :-ok Waiting for pics!! :-razz
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: pkrasna on November 23, 2011, 11:25:58 PM
Good work so far!

Primož
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2011, 11:33:57 PM
In the morning more images ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 24, 2011, 02:48:25 PM
Here you are ;) I did not make perfect match to the worn out look of this machine but hope this can be accepted somehow  :-red Sorry for blur on first image :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on November 24, 2011, 02:52:50 PM
Looks great for my eyes!!!  :-ok :-ok :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 24, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
Looking good! :-clap :-clap
Maybe you could paint missiles in white or light gray with blue or yellow rings, but now is late... And it is not soo important! ;) I like it!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 24, 2011, 03:41:24 PM
Thank you for comments friends :-ok Sall- missiles are black, I paint it as on image.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 24, 2011, 03:49:57 PM
I never see that missile in black color. But... Pic is pic... ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 24, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
Yes, pic is pic...

(http://www.megawallpapers.org/wallpapers/25/2561/thumb/600_Dassault_Rafale_66003.jpg)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 24, 2011, 08:40:11 PM
Thanks for share with us.. ;) One more thing! Faaast work!!! :-eek :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 24, 2011, 08:47:09 PM
Thank you :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on November 24, 2011, 08:48:55 PM
Very nice photo...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 25, 2011, 01:38:59 AM
I can't wait Monday,so i start some works tonight! :))
Maybe i will have time tomorrow to work little more. ;) Anyway, i cut some piece of plastic, glue some parts. There will be now some sanding of plastic,also filling and sanding glued parts.  :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 25, 2011, 02:41:33 AM
I have sanded those frameworks. Tomorrow i must take one more layer of filling&sanding on doors this access panels...
Tomorrow continue... :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Ernie on November 25, 2011, 04:47:22 AM
Nice work Sall, very clean cutting!
Ernie
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 25, 2011, 06:08:44 AM
It look like that night work is good for you ;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on November 25, 2011, 08:19:49 AM
Excellent, Sall!!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 25, 2011, 01:07:13 PM
Thanks mates!! ;) :-flo
Srecko,in some hand you are right ;) This days, i can't sleep before 4,5, sometimes even 06:00AM... :-dal I don't know why,but... So i use that time to work on models! :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on November 25, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
You can be creative in any time as I see :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on November 25, 2011, 01:50:55 PM
 :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 12, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Ta-daaa!!!

Back with this group build; I have received what I was waiting for to continue my 1/144 Rafale Marine: the detail set from RetrokiT, that is really gorgeous, and a decal sheet.

Resin is actually "in the bath" (water + wash product); I will resume the build in the next few days.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on December 12, 2012, 11:46:36 AM
Ah- topic is alive :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 12, 2012, 12:01:25 PM
;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on December 12, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
Great!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 12, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
Wooohooooooo, this will be great!! :-clap :-clap
I will continue work on my F-15E when i finish MiG-29 - hope soon!! :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 16, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
The seat and sticks from Retrowings are placed into the cockpit
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on December 16, 2012, 12:06:32 PM
Tiny and sensitive!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 16, 2012, 08:15:49 PM
Like it!! :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 16, 2012, 08:28:22 PM
Thank you!

That kit gives me the envy to build the other 1/144 kits I own... Harrier, Starfighter, Alpha Jet, F-18, Tornados...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on December 17, 2012, 05:53:50 AM
This is really looking nice!!!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 24, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
Canopy is masked (yes, it was "masking day" today...  :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on December 24, 2012, 01:53:45 PM
What a work...  :-eek
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 24, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
Yep...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 24, 2012, 08:25:01 PM
Tiny, tiny!!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on December 24, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Very tiny!!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 26, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
Little progress...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on December 26, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Second Air Force on December 26, 2012, 05:08:46 PM
Go forward!!!
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 26, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
 :-ok
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: foxtwo on December 26, 2012, 10:17:39 PM
i need new glasses....;-) TOP job over this tiny baby !!
so you opened some panels....where do you find pics of those ? should be interesting to do that at 1/48....i've got an idea to place a Marine rafale in maintenance....;-)
Pat
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 27, 2012, 03:23:36 PM
@foxtwo
As i know there will be not opened panels, and this is 1/144! ;) :))
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 27, 2012, 07:17:24 PM
I confirm Pat, no panels opened for this one; and for the photos just try "photos rafale marine" on Google...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: foxtwo on December 27, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
was thinking you've opened the front panel !!.....i need some rest...see opened panels everywhere.....;-)
Pat
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 27, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
;)
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 28, 2012, 12:01:56 AM
was thinking you've opened the front panel !!.....i need some rest...see opened panels everywhere.....;-)
Pat


That's great!!! :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 30, 2012, 10:33:48 AM
Thank you, but work is unfortunately finished: I have broken some parts of the cockpit, that are not repairable...  :-red

 :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr :-kr
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: No.1 on December 30, 2012, 11:22:31 AM
:( Go and make barbecue, try to relax....
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 30, 2012, 01:27:31 PM
Oh, no problem I'm zen again! It's not the first kit that finish in such a way; nor the last one I'm afraid...
I will begin soon my 1/72 Rafale C; but this one will be a "what-if"...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 30, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
Not worry mate!! :-ok :-flo

What 1/72 Rafale will you make? :) Hobby boss or something else? :) :-tri
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 30, 2012, 02:00:17 PM
Hobby Boss. Very nice kit of the Rafale C.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 30, 2012, 02:02:26 PM
Very nice kit, i agree, but closer to 1/76, not to 1/72!! :(
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 30, 2012, 02:05:09 PM
Very nice kit, i agree, but closer to 1/76, not to 1/72!! :(

Sure? Anyway, it's not a problem...
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 31, 2012, 12:55:06 AM
I'm not 100% sure., but i heard that... ;) Can you check this with the drawings when you start building, to be 100% sure? :-flo
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: draken35 on December 31, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Will do that my friend.
Title: Re: July Group Build - Fighters of the 4th-4th+ generation
Post by: Sall on December 31, 2012, 05:22:15 PM
Thank you!! :-flo