LetLetLet ~ Warplanes
Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Second Air Force on February 16, 2011, 09:13:26 PM
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To go along with the SBD group build, would anyone like to do an Ilyushin project? I just opened an Accurate Miniatures single-seat Il-2 and will post photos here. If any of y'all want to join in I'd appreciate it!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6265.jpg)
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Why not, it have many paint schemes, can be done. This will be for March?
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Ohoho...This will be excellent work!I really love Russian planes!
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We can just start the build as everyone has the time. I reckon March can be the "official" start.
Sall, you might be surprised at the markings I've chosen for my first Il-2. ;) I spent a LOT of time trying to decide which aircraft to build even though there weren't that many single-seaters depicted in my references.
The Il-2 has always interested me a lot. I would really love to see one in airworthy condition.
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And what you decided?What marking will you chose?Some interesting camouflage? :-flo
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Well, I have narrowed down the search to three different airplanes. Only one is a VVS machine--I'll let you guess my other two choices. :-flo One hint: I am not modeling the ski-equipped version--just the standard gear. I am leaning to one machine over the other two but I won't know until I get the airbrush out which one I'll pick! :-think
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Maybe Yugoslavian ? :)) :-think
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Sorry, my kit is a single seater and the Yugoslavian example is two-seat. You're on the right track, though!
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Hm...?
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Mongolia,Czechoslovakia,Bulgaria and Poland have possessed this plane except Yugoslav and Soviet Union.I assume that the Mongolian camouflage is interesting-mixed color-although i have never seen. :-flo
Maybe Bulgarian machine? :-think
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The Bulgarian ships were two-seaters also! I wish I had the Type 3 as there are nearly unlimited choices. I would probably do an Avia B.31 if I had the two-seat kit.
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Just to add small remarks- Samuraj and me have all what need for group build of the F4U Corsair and Fokker D.VII and this can be also credit for the close future group build
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I have get a sample of kit in 1/72 scale so if we decide to use this type for group build, I am prepared ;)
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I have gotten a good start on my first Il 2. This is the second Accurate Miniatures model I've built (the SBD/A-24 was the first) and it is certainly engineered differently than other kits. You build this in some interesting sub-sections that don't seem to make sense at first glance, but if you follow the instructions it goes together quite nicely.
I started by painting the cockpit and fuel cell assembly and setting it aside to dry. Next is to glue the two main fuselage halves together.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6411.jpg)
The next steps are to assemble the radiator and spars to the lower wing center section. I found that the center section skin was molded rather flat and I used CA glue to fasten the spars tightly. The spars have the correct dihedral and are able to help give the center section the correct shape. The last step here is to glue the cockpit assembly to the center section assembly. Next was to assemble the engine cowling halves and the oil cooler inlet duct. This is one of the interesting designs of this kit but it does need a tiny bit of filler to fair all of the cowling parts correctly.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6412.jpg)
Just for fun I slid the upper wing panels and horizontal stabilizers into the assembled fuselage to check the fit. This, too, looks like it will fit quite well.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6414.jpg)
This is proving to be an easy and quick build so far. Not counting waiting for paint to dry I've only spent a couple of hours on it to this point.
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Nice progress so far :-ok Looks as a really interesting break of parts :-think
For this GroupBuild - sorry, but I won't join - don't have any in the stash, while don't want to buy anything new until I clear a pile at least a little...
As for No.1's suggestion for Corsair and D.VII :-think - 2 of former and 5 of later on the pile, just have to rummage through the cellar to get them :-dal
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Very fast work,and great job! :-clap
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No worries, Profa. I am like you--I don't really need to go out and buy new kits, I need to start building the ones already in storage! If the "group" is one of twenty it won't be a problem. I rather like the idea of having several group builds going at the same time so that more of us can participate in the ones we have kits or resources for. I may have a Corsair in the shop somewhere.......
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A further update with some pictures of the upper wing joining. I was a bit concerned with how the fuselage, lower wing center section, and upper wing panels were all going to fit together when I started looking at this model. I'm happy to report that it fits VERY nicely and doesn't appear that any filler will be needed except in a couple of small areas. The photos are pretty self explanatory.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6422.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6424.jpg)
The fit is so nice that all I had to do was to apply glue to the indentation on the fuselage side and to the mating surface between upper and lower wing skins, then slip it all together.
This is the bottom of the airplane before installing the outer wing panels. They also fit very cleanly and won't need a lot of work.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6431.jpg)
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All right- I am jump in with my kit in 1/72 scale. I get this one in Netherlands, just for this build.
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Yours is definitely the little brother of the Accurate Miniatures 1/48 kit--I can see the fuselage sides through the bag in your third photo! Hopefully your landing gear fairings will be more cooperative than mine were. The left one on my larger example has some fit problems. Nothing that some filler couldn't fix, though.
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I have look at the parts and they are so crisp and look to be good match. Also I have take a look on the ample I will do and I will do sample from the 1941 production and it look like that interior is in natural metal. One sample of this series preserved in Kiev have interior in this fashion.
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This morning I start assembly work on my sample kit. It all goes smooth and fine, kit is very good mold :-tri
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Very nice progress. It's rather a fun build isn't it!?
When I was working on the landing gear I found that modification was necessary. It's called out in the AM instruction sheet, so it pays to read ahead during construction. The main struts include the cross-axle for the skis. You must cut this axle off but leave stubs on each strut leg for the wheel to attach to.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6433.jpg)
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Here are the landing gear fairings after assembling them. The left one didn't fit all that well when I offered them up to the wing. Nothing a bit of filler and filing won't fix, though. I rather like having the gear doors molded onto the opening in this case.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6432.jpg)
I had the air compressor in use this morning so I got a first coat of primer on these two projects.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6435-1.jpg)
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Nice look- Fw-2 and Il-189 side by side :))
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I get some free two hours and I make some progress on the kit build. First at all I have assemble intake section and prepared most of the parts for the cockpit. Most of the parts are then spray in the Mr. Surfacer 1200 and as well this dry fast, I have paint all of the area in various metallic colors. I decide to put some parts in other color and add some green boxes with buttons. Again to note that elements join good and during the wings to the fuselage fitting I just need to make a little bit more pressure.
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Great work friends on this beautiful bird! :-clap
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Thank you young friend ;) I have update above post with few more images and there is show landing gear nacelle mounting as well covering and sealing of all joint lines with Mr. Surfacer 500
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It's fun to watch your progress, and hard to believe that we're working in two different scales from the photos. Everything is identical between the kits including the areas that need a bit of filler.
One item I did differently on mine was to attach the aft landing gear struts to the wing structure before I installed the fairings. I was concerned about getting the fairings on crooked (even though there is an engraved outline on the wing) and then having problems with the struts later. I will probably do it the way you did on my next one.
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Thank you for comments mate :-ok Here is the progress on my side- all small parts fitted and now just to make small surface correction and protect canopy. Who knows, maybe I will spray first coat of paint today ;)
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This goes fast! :-jump
Matching on this model is great. :-eek :-tri
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It is good kit and can be made fast. Now I await for some visitors so hardly that I will continue work today but who knows...
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It really is a "therapy" kit in that you could probably build one all the way up to the finished model in a day with no interruptions. I have another single-seater just waiting to be built and I look forward to finding a two-seat version for the future. I can highly recommend the 1/48th scale version and No.1 will probably agree about the 1/72nd kit.
I'll probably spray the undersides this morning if it gets a little warmer in the shop.
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Great lads
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This would be done already but I have jam with Revell paint. Simply it is not for the fine nozzle. I spent a hour to clean up problem it make. Images show protection of the cockpit, then coat of the Surfacer, coat of the aluminum paint and spots of the Mascol. Bottom is painted with my hand mix of the Gunze color to get shade as close to VVS underside blue. If I get tomorrow any good paints, I will complete top colors. To regret, my range of fine colors are limited.
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All right, I have overseen that I have all need colors and kit is complete with camouflage.
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Looks great with new paint!
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Thank you :)) Some images which show propeller and landing ear fitting ;)
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Decals are on, landing gear full on, just to put armament, spray flat varnish, make some dirt and this is it. Tomorrow I will make images outside for completed kit ;)
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Excellent result, as usual. I'm going out now to spray the underside of the larger version as the temperature here is much warmer......
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Thank you mate :)) My kit is completed, tomorrow morning I will take an images of it :-razz
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Hardly wait to see pics on daily light! :-jump
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My build is here and I can now enjoy with other kits until next group build start in April :))
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Yea...Looks perfect,as always! :-clap :-clap :-clap
Now,we can pay attention on Scotts work! :-flo
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I lied a little the other day--I was going to spray the undersides but other duties got in my way........ Today I dusted off my old paints and got the bottom of the airplane painted:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6437.jpg)
The paint I used came from Humbrol tins that I bought in 1979. :-wise I was pretty skeptical when I opened the first tin, but it mixed up perfectly. The second tin of darker blue took only a few stirs to fully mix. I tip my hat to the "old" Humbrol products for lasting all these years without losing performance.
I'll keep plugging away, Sall--hopefully I can finish the project by the end of the month.
No.1, your finished product looks great! Is the April build going to be the Corsair?
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Your progress is also very good. No problem about the Corsair ;) Hope other would be able to join :))
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Yep, that old Humbrol was really a God's gift :-obey
This looks nice up until now, believe the rest of the paintwork shall be just the same :-ok
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I was so VERY happy when I pried the lid off the first tin and smelled that familiar odor! :-love I've got a couple dozen Humbrol tins that are of the same vintage and I suspect they'll all be good to use. The thing that impressed me most was that the two I've already used were some that had been opened in the past, the last time in the mid-eighties. Great stuff!!!!
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It's called quality! :-clap
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It's called quality! :-clap
You're correct on that, Sall!
I must confess a secret belief of mine--I'm not all that fond of acrylics. :-paper I grew up with zinc chromate primer, lacquer and Imron paint and using water as a reducer just never seemed to make sense.......but I'm slowly learning to adapt.
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Firmly believe that the older products (before 20 or 30 years) were much better than those today.Not only in modeling, but in general.Today everyone is looking for a profit, and this decreases the quality.Before it was not that, at least not so much as today. :-paper
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No.1 :-eek :-eek :-eek , this was quick and powerful :-obey :-obey :-obey :-wave :-wave :-wave :-wave
Second Air Force I look and enjoy :-obey :-obey :-obey :-ok :-wave
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Thank you ;)
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And what you decided?What marking will you chose?Some interesting camouflage? :-flo
Here is a photo-hint as to the paint scheme I selected......... ;)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6515.jpg)
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What type of airbrush you are using as well you need that strong protection?
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I sprayed the white with my trusty Badger 350 that is about thirty years old. I was painting something else and just slapped the paint on this at the same time. I masked it off in a big hurry with the first thing I could find--it happened to be low-sticky masking tape. It does look like I'm using battery acid for paint, doesn't it! :-danger (My finishing airbrush is a Paasche but I was priming with the Badger today and was too lazy to clean both of them.)
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Excellent combination!!!
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Here is the finished Il 2 from my workbench. It depicts the Hungarian-captured machine rebuilt from two damaged airplanes and test-flown by the RHAF. The references I had (not much more than the Wings Palette line drawing and a couple of web discussions) showed the national insignia were hand-painted so I replicated that effect by masking and spraying the markings. From what I could gather the top surfaces of the airplane had been repainted during the repair process, or shortly thereafter, so the upper portion is still fairly clean.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6545.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6547.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6542.jpg)
I have another single-seater and am planning on a VVS machine for that one.
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Great job :-ok
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Hey mate!This is great!Beautiful work!I like it! :-love :-clap :-clap :-clap
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Nice and curious aircraft, with those Hungarian markings!
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Thanks, everyone. :-flo
I must say that the camouflage is a "best-guess" at what it should have looked like. I found some profiles and three-views of other RHAF aircraft and used the basic pattern for this model. I enjoyed doing it this way as it is something different, but it still doesn't exactly represent history, just my interpretation of a historical event. I usually don't care to speculate on military models, but this airplane was so unusual that I did it anyway. :-roll If I ever find some really good photos of this ship I will definitely correct my mistakes. Until then, I'll put it on the shelf and dust it now and then!
After doing some research on the Hungarian Air Force for this project I find the need for a Reggiane Re.2000 kit........ :-love
Scott
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Very interesting choice.
I like it
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Me to :-salut I like unusual planes, or unusual markings - this one is very special. Great work :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-wave
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I have been searching out different schemes since I got back into building. Captured airplanes are very interesting to me. For example, I would like to build a Luftwaffe-operated P-47 or Spitfire. Another fun choice would be one of the German aircraft flown by the RAF or the hand-painted Fw 190s captured by the USAAF later in the war. In fact, I still may paint my little Fw 189 as the Soviet operated airplane that No.1 sent me a photo of.
When I first saw the Hungarian insignia on the Il 2 drawing I knew I wanted to build it, and I'm glad y'all liked it. Doing the research on the Sturmovik has gotten me quite excited about building some more RHAF machines in the future.