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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2010, 02:52:37 PM »
A perfect combination of colors. :-eek I really like the camouflage. :-love :-love :-love

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2011, 12:04:03 PM »
This work with painted Al foil strips on a canopy - it's amazing :-eek One must be so precise :-think
Wonderful  :-clap :-clap :-clap and Al is great of course, thanks man :-flo :-wave

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2011, 05:39:57 PM »
Here is the finished P-47 project. I may do just a little exhaust staining and I don't seem to have any Curtiss Electric decals for the propeller blades, but I'm looking.......
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6191.jpg
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I want to thank everyone on this forum for inspiring me to FINALLY FINISH A MODEL!!!!!!!!!! This is the first completed modeling project in nearly ten years, and the first aircraft since our group build for the 2000 IPMS Nationals in Dallas.

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2011, 05:59:50 PM »
Hey mate,it looks great!
Do you want open topic in Aircraft Modeling,and show us some big photos of this wonderful project?
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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2011, 08:26:08 PM »
I suppose I could start a new subject thread and link it to the NMF discussion. There isn't much to this build--I started with a Tamiya kit so there isn't a lot to talk about! I just glued it together and painted it--it was more of a NMF practice kit than anything.

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2011, 04:11:21 AM »
Just a quick entry showing another of my many uses for BareMetal Foil--as a masking material. I simply apply foil and trim the edge with a new X-acto blade, rub it down firmly, and paint the part. Here's a tire from my bomb trailer:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6245.jpg
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http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6249.jpg
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BareMetal works great and doesn't leave any residue on painted surfaces if you're careful. It gives a very sharp edge if trimmed carefully.

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2011, 04:25:37 PM »
Today I experimented a little with NMF simulation on the wing of Nieuport XVII :)
First, I had to prepare the wing in order to check how paint would adhere to differently smoothed base. Therefore everything was sanded with water, using papers graded as written and polished using both fine and superfine sides of MaxFactor manicure stick.

Model Master 1401 aluminium metalizer was throughly shaked, and I have used paint from the cap.
All the paintwork was done by my old trusty companion on the pics - Winsor & Newton Special Value No.1, five years old :-salut

Surface was painted using short and curt strokes, going in both up-down and left-right directions, holding brush in different angles to the surface, from almost horisontal to almost vertical.
When I got to the end of the wing with the first coat, shaking the bottle few more times in the process, I have immediately started the second coat. There was obviously enough time for the first coat to dry, since I didn't have any problem with it.

To conclude: the best coat was definitely on the superfine polished-surface.
Area sanded with 1500 grit can't be taken into account since I made a mistake using paint from the bottle and not from the lid. This was already a little shrugged, and this obviously isn't the way to go...

This way I have already painted F-100 (pic in-progress) and F-84:
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/projekti/skola/NMFm06.jpg
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http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/projekti/HB%20F-84G/1-m21.jpg
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http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/makete-aviona-aircraft-modeling/hobby-boss-172-republic-f-84g-thunderjet-sfrj/

I'm sorry, but pics are not of the best quality. They nevertheless show the most interesting features...
So, this is my way of simulating NMF, with which I'm more than pleased :-wave
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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2011, 08:14:56 PM »
How about a posting of mistakes made? I'm working on a natural metal Zero on the Japan Group Build as frequent LLL members know. A few days ago I sprayed the flight control surfaces with Model Master buffing aluminum and then sealed them with the NMF sealer also from MM. This morning I masked all the flight controls with low-tack tape prior to spraying the next coat on the airframe. I used this Scotch brand tape and took the precaution of making it even less sticky by rubbing my fingers over the adhesive repeatedly.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7205.jpg
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I tested the tape on an area and it seemed to be fine. When I was removing the masking I found that the sealer stripped off of the left side of the rudder.......
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7198.jpg
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The right and all other surfaces turned out fine.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7200.jpg
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Apparently I didn't "de-sticky" the tape quite enough on the rudder half. In the next installment I'll show how simple it can be to repair such damage if it should occur.

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2011, 08:32:18 PM »
Nice approach!!!

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2011, 08:36:54 PM »
I think I need to try that Tamiya tape sooner than I thought!

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2011, 08:52:03 PM »
Yep, Tamiya is less adhesive than Scotch, especially after "de-stickyng"...

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2011, 06:33:02 PM »
I managed to repair the damaged rudder coating over morning coffee today. First I "de-de-stickied" :-roll some more tape and affixed it to paper towel segments for masking.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7208.jpg
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Then it was a simple matter to lightly sand the rudder with 8000 grit Micromesh sanding cloth and respray with the Metalizer and a coat of sealer. The bright trim tab is Chrome BareMetal foil.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7210.jpg
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As a further example of the different shades and textures that you can accomplish with just one bottle of Metalizer, here is the outer wing panel of the A6M5. The leading edge is MM Buffing Aluminum (not polished), the center portion is the same shade but polished with a soft cloth embedded with aluminum powder, and the aileron is, again, the same shade, this time not polished and given a coat of MM Metalizer Sealer.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7214.jpg
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This shading is quite subtle, and hard to see from some angles, but worth the extra masking, I think.

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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2011, 06:16:46 AM »
The canopy of the NMF Zero is a good example of using unpainted foil for the framing. First photo shows (sorry about the photo quality) a large piece of foil laid onto the compound curvature of the rear canopy section. Once the foil is burnished down the molded in frame lines are easy to use as a guide for cutting out the clear portions with a new X-acto blade.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7224.jpg
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The balance of the framing was done with separate strips as shown on the P-47 project a page or two ago.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7225.jpg
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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2011, 10:46:22 AM »
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Re: HOW TO: Natural Metal Finishes
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2011, 08:23:37 PM »
Thank you for answer and explanation!! :-flo One more thing that i learned today! :-tri

http://www.testors.com/category/145620/Metalizer_Enamel_Paint
There is non buffing paints,and can be order! ;) Price 4 $!
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