LetLetLet ~ Warplanes
Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Profa on September 01, 2011, 02:18:05 PM
-
Let's get this party started! :-jump
Here are my participants, both marvelous 1/72 Italeri models. Although plastic itself might be sufficient, I've provided Eduard PE zoom sets for both :))
I plan to do attached cammo schemes, although first one shall be treated differently, according to the following: http://www.150gct.it/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4367, i.e. it shall receive light green coat, as presumed is done on Greek isles
Don't know if I'd get time today to start, since tomorrow early in the morning we're departing for the modeling competition to be held in Senta. Report from there shall of course follow ;). Anyway, progress soon... :-wave
-
The 1/72 kits from Italeri are as nice as their 1/48 ones :)
-
Yes!!!
-
So interestnig planes,and camouflages... :-eek are beautiful! :-love
Go ahead!! ;)
-
First some basic info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42
Image of engine
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Fiat_A.74_RIC38.jpg
Machine gun image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/12.7mmBreda-SAFAT.jpg
Drawings:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/fiatcr42alitalia.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/fiatcr42kr.html
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/j11fiatcr42.html
-
I would suggest following references:
[Ali d'Italia n°01] - Fiat CR.42 Falco
[Ali e colori n°01] - Fiat CR.42
[C.M.P.R. (Club Modellismo Plastico Ravenna)] - Colori e Schemi Mimetici della Regia Aeronautica 1935-1943
[Wydawnictwo Militaria n°055] - Fiat CR.42
+ of course, the all-knowing internet... ;)
-
I haven't any photos yet, but I'll start my Classic Airframes 1/48 kit today.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6668.jpg)
Scott
-
:-ok
-
I'm finding the Classic Airframes kit is pretty fun to work with! It doesn't look like it has any great pitfalls so far and the parts really seem to fit pretty nicely except the windscreen is a bit wider than the fuselage where it joins. It'll be easy to fix that problem, though. Hopefully I'll get some pictures taken of progress yet this weekend in between two LLL Magazine projects.......
-
I'm afraid that I will not participate that time... Too much work actually; too much kits to build and review...
As a good source of documentation, I recommend you the Mushroom book 8104 "Fiat CR42 Falco" from Przemislaw Skulski: very complete...
-
I reckon I should mention that I'm building a Swedish J-11 for this GB. I'm still wavering on the actual scheme and aircraft number but will try to get some work done this weekend.
-
Sorry to hear that, Daniel :(
Hope that other will join Scott and me, there's plenty of time :-/
-
I started a little bit of the cockpit assembly on mine tonight. Then I taped the fuselage halves together to test-fit the cockpit tub. The cockpit is resin and photoetch (nicely done by Eduard) and appears to be fairly easy to assemble--the seat took just minutes to bend up and assemble.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7801.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7802.jpg)
-
I will go with simple build of Italeri kit in 1/48 scale and my very start mean paint in black primer interior parts.
-
Interior parts painted in grey and I make some highlight of details in rough form.
-
Nice start, No.1!
This is actually scaled up their 1/72 kit I'm about to start today :-ok
-
Excellent Scott!! :-clap :-clap
Srecko,will you do some scratchbuilt here? :)
-
No scratch from my side, just what I have in box. This morning I have do this on kit.
-
Fast and good. ;)
-
Regular speed and I agree about good ;)
-
Nice looking cockpit.
-
Good progresses!!!
And for me, sorry really, but too much workbenches, and not enough time actually... :(
-
Also me, only two hours to work on kits but enough for now
-
Not much time for this project as I have one other I must finish first. I did bend up the cockpit cage and assembled the main elements of the interior and painted everything.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7809.jpg)
-
:-ok Nice.
-
Your kit is very nice and my is ready to be painted.
-
Excellent...
-
Looks very good! :-clap
-
Bottom is painted in grey and tomorrow will get top camouflage. In this moment I set on my table, relaxed in chair and watch painting instruction in order to choose which sample I will make. Thank you for your kind comment :)
-
Now I am really stuck and shocked with fact that in painting instruction was given completely inaccurate patterns. Fist what is not clear to me is that there is given that on top side was used spot in German paints. It look more like standard Italian late camouflage with green base and brown spots. Also available images show no night engine exhaust, as well kit instruction recommend it. All right I did not seen images of all 112 samples delivered to Luftwaffe but this is enough to catch eye. All samples in kit featured wheel spats and actually they have remove it. Sample which have it is the first sample provided in assembly. Bitter problem coming with the same shape of pattern, all of them were shown with underside spots and actually not all have it. Worst at all is that this underside spot pattern was copied and it is same on all proposed machines and this is not fact. First machine which have specific black ring around cross on top wings, did not have this spots even in moment when it was destroyed!!
I will try to do something with this painting but hardly to estimate any good work with so limited data...
-
Yep, Italeri's painting instructions are almost always doubtful to completely inaccurate :-wall, especially when it comes to paints used. What machine do you build, any pic or profile?
Check what experts in italian-built machines say: http://www.stormomagazine.com/index.htm
-
Sample I built was crash landed in Switzerland and from two available images I manage to do something... all instructions given by manufacturers look like refer to the delivery machine, operational machines have large number on fuselage.
-
If you already have pics, why do you care about the instructions?
From available pics I know that Italeri made some major mistakes also on my samples, but it's pics I'm going to follow. Not to mention that they didn't give matricola militare numbers at all :-wall
-
Problem is that fuselage after the cockpit is sliced off. Also bottom wings top surface is not visible. You know that I do not prefer to make approximation in work. Never mind, this will be completed as better as I can.
-
Well, you must make some compromise... :-roll Just go on! ;)
-
I like how the camo turned out.
-
I have few crash problems but kit is assembled. Some small corrections and gloss coat is next
-
(http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/Pittsburghistan/slow-clap.gif)
-
Ha ha ha- thank you :-flo
I am completed decals as well final assembly. When flat coat completely dry I will put few wires and this is it.
-
Great work!
I have not even gotten into my modeling room today. :( Too many other duties and chores to get done.........
-
I have also work but I am lucky that I work at home so can with easy to relax with model build. Just to complete this one and start with MiG-29 in 1/48 scale
-
My problem is hummingbirds--we have many (well over 150) hummers that spend the summer here and they are now migrating to South and Central America. I spent all morning cleaning and repairing feeders that are ready to be put back into storage as our population is rapidly dwindling. Most days during the peak season I spend at least an hour, sometimes two, filling feeders and preparing their favorite sugar/water drink. Another week or so and we won't see any until mid-April of next spring. We miss them when they're gone, but they are a lot of work when they are here. A benefit for us humans is that we have almost no small insect problems--the hummingbirds LOVE little bugs!
-
Congratulations for the nice result obtained, Srecko!
-
You have lovely job Scott ;) And natural way to keep your plants free :))
Thank you mate :-ok
-
Ok, I found a little time to visit the Falco. Still much to be done here, but progress is made.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7822.jpg)(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7822.jpg)
-
Bravo! :-clap Both of you.. ;)
-
Must say it is very good cockpit!!!
-
For 3 days boxes stay on my table, but due to regular work I didn't even had time to open it, less start some work.
This's about to change in a matter of minutes... :-tri
@Scott: nice cockpit, have heard that CA made good job of it :-ok
@Srecko: I thought you're going to make that '35', all mottled in German covering :-dal
-
All mottled... ? Most are patched, not mottled.
-
Whatever... patched, you're right
-
Mate- from three suggested samples I find images only for one sample. Problem with images I explain before. Then I have used one of three numbers I have provided in decal sheet, I simply deduct material for two machines and use this one. If you have any image I would be happy to see it.
-
Image of E8+JK is from Replic n°50, and profile is from Ali e Colori n°01.
There's also another interesting profile page with some comments: http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/f29-aircraft-profile-painting/fiat-cr-42-a-2838/index6.html, where's noted that also veterans of NSG9 agree on this cammo... Image I've attached is taken from that page.
I used wrong word mottled instead of patched, thanks for correcting me ;)
-
Yes, this subject could be done, I did not have this material before. Never mind, one lost project :(
-
Do not consider it lost, after all you did one fine machine and nice model :-ok It's not as appealing as the mentioned one, but it's nice looking nevertheless...
Knowing you, there'll be plenty of opportunities to do that "patched" as well. OK, it might take even 2 days to paint it :-/, but what the heck ;)
-
Thank you :)
-
Finally I managed to get started :-jump
first issue was cleaning of plastic and attachment of some PE parts on both cockpits; afterwards both were painted Verde anticorrosione and Grigio Chiaro.
Now waiting for the paint to dry, and tonight I'll continue... :-wave
-
Good! :-ok
-
Hello all, :-salut :-salut
A very good kit. I've started the building of one in the markings of the only one CR-42 in Free French Air Force.
Have a good day,
Jicéhem :-wave
-
Nice mate :-ok Can you place images here, this is very rare subject!!
-
Nice mate :-ok Can you place images here, this is very rare subject!!
Hi, :-salut :-salut
Unfortunally, they are copyrighted.
I'll post pictures of the kit when it is finished...
Jicéhem :-wave :-wave
-
Sorry my friend, I did not mean on archive images, I did mean on your model build.
;)
-
Tonight I mostly played with PE parts and have corrected green shade of interior - it seemed too greenish, and needed some sort of grey hue...
Yesterday evening I have already corrected grey to more light shade - by mistake I have used Humbrol 140 instead of 141 :-wall.
Meanwhile black is painted on on left control panel, and tomorrow I'll weather and assembly the cockpit
Continue soon! :-wave
-
I like your work a looooot!! :-clap :-clap
-
As well I have seen both interior colors, your colors are good. Maybe green to be more medium but it is fine...
-
Excellent...
-
Nice progress, Profa. I changed the color tone of my cockpit after the first painting also. The surviving J-11 cockpit is a darkish grey so I used USAAF neutral grey on mine.
A bit of progress was made this evening which shocked me. The Classic Airframes cockpit doesn't fit all that easily into the fuselage. If you get the instrument panel halves properly attached to the cage structure and install the compass and gunsight the fuselage halves can't be closed because the panels hit the sides. I simply used the Dremel to carefully trim some plastic from the fuselage parts until a proper fit was made. It turned out to be a rather quick fix and so more got done than I'd thought. :-jump
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7854.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7861.jpg)
One small drawback with the CA kit is that the windscreen sides are wider than the fuselage opening. Other reviews I've read mention using a hair dryer to heat the perspex and then bending to narrow it. I didn't want to risk breaking the glass so I used a strip of styrene to widen the opening in the fuselage. I apologize for the photo quality but you can easily see the .030 strip in white. The windscreen fits perfectly now, and the gun cover that goes in front of this still fits very nicely.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7857.jpg)
After fixing that little problem the assembly continued. The fit of most everything else is pretty nice for a short-run style kit and little filler is needed so far.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7859.jpg)
And, to finish out the evening, what would be better than a Falco on skis? I had a spare set of skis from the Accurate Miniatures Il-2 so one of them has been cut up to make this master for resin casting. It was quite simple--just split the ski lengthwise and spanwise to remove material, then the sides were built up a bit to deepen the ski and everything was glued together. Then a bit of resin was poured into the aft segment to level it and the whole mess was sanded to the final shape.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7856.jpg)
-
Mate- you faced problem with accuracy and I wanted a time ago to make an article about this. In many cases small aircraft have internal elements and structure tight to the airframe and in elements like this are also instruments panel. So if manufacturer make precise instrument panel it will never fit as well plastic kit fuselage wall thickness don't allow this. Result- kit will be brutally attacked on various forum and sites... If manufacturer reduce size of internal elements to make them fit in cockpit, witch hunters who live on various forums and web sites will spot this and again brutal attack on manufacturers. But- aftermarket producers will get its chance and make precise interior elements... which will be hard to install inside due to the fuselage wall...
Modeling world is so interesting :))
-
Great point, brother! :-ok
I was told by another modeler that he finally gave up on a CA CR.42 because the cockpit didn't "fit". Heck, it only took me five minutes or so to trim the inside of the fuselage walls and everything snuggles in there nicely. I must say that the Eduard PE that comes with the kit is extremely nice and looks just like the instrument panel in the 1/1 scale Swedish survivor. We should add this type of material to Sall's sticky thread about different techniques, I reckon.
-
Good solution mate. From my side I will simply slice off fuselage sides and replace them with plastic or thin metal sheet.
-
Scott, as always I'm admirative of your fine work!!!
-
Nice fit and good solution for the windscreen, Scott! Much better, if you ask me, that heat warping...
As per fit issue of CA interior, it was addressed in some build logs and reviews, and every time the solution was just as you did it - thinning of fuselage walls.
I don't think I'll have this problem as Italeri has already provided tubular structure as separate piece, which is just replaced with (thinner) PE part. :))
Dependng on series, internal structure would be earlier green or later gray - this directive was put into full effect in 1942, but for Fiat one should find a photo of particular machine (which is impossible) to use right color... Therefore both are possible. Duxford and Swedish samples have gray, while Italian is green :-dal
-
Nice fit and good solution for the windscreen, Scott! Much better, if you ask me, that heat warping...
Dependng on series, internal structure would be earlier green or later gray - this directive was put into full effect in 1942, but for Fiat one should find a photo of particular machine (which is impossible) to use right color... Therefore both are possible. Duxford and Swedish samples have gray, while Italian is green :-dal
Yes, I was afraid of two possibilities if I tried to warp the transparency--1. I'd break it, 2. It would fly out of my fingers into the Carpet Monster and never be seen again!
When I started my cockpit I initially thought the green would have been used, but the real Swedish airplane shows it to be the dark grey. I'm going to try to find another kit (Italeri this time, I think) and build an early machine with green.
-
This green I have chance to see and it is medium color (at least used by Fiat) and it is some range of FS 24272
-
One item I forgot to mention about the Classic Airframes kit--the oil cooler inlets and outlets in each wing root are missing. It's not a huge problem, though. I drilled the inlets out and simply made outlet fairings from .005 sheet styrene.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7866.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7869.jpg)
You can see in the underside shot that there isn't a lot of filler as I'd mentioned earlier. Just a tiny bit along the major seams and joints and a quick sanding took care of them.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7867.jpg)
-
Nice! ;)
-
Clean hole ;) Any option to put mesh inside or no need for that?
-
Scott, I'd suggest you swedish book from Mikael Forslund Produktion - J11. Fiat CR.42 - plenty of good pics of CR.42s in swedish service, along with some nice contemporary colour pics of operational machines.
Here attached is what I found regarding oil cooler inlet - it seems it was covered with some sort of flap, since on most of the pictures it is closed (like blinded). Only one picture shows some kind of opened flap.
Also visit walk around galleries http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/02/stuff_eng_detail_cr42_2.htm and http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/cr42ws_1.htm, there are pics of museum samples with the same type of inlet covering...
-
Thanks for the replies on the oil cooler openings y'all. :-ok
I'll be installing the small doors in there, especially so since I'm building a winterized bird. I don't have access to a pilot's handbook or technical manual, but from the photos it looks like the door pivots in the center like the throttle plate on a carburetor to allow air through the cooler when needed. In one of Walter Scheibling's walkaround photos of the Hendon airplane you can see what looks like the bearing or bushing that the shaft would turn on.
Profa, thanks for the book title--I'll see if I can find one or order it direct from Mr. Forslund.
-
Two more photos--I finished fitting the wing-to-fuselage joint and did a final cleanup on the oil cooler openings, then installed the shutter doors.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7896.jpg)
This second one is of the engine, and it is really, really a nice model in itself, made up of fifteen resin parts and a PE pushrod set. Not only is it well detailed but it goes together very nicely. All I added was a little plumbing and wiring.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7904.jpg)
-
Look perfect for me ;)
-
Look perfect for me ;)
+1! ;)
-
I "+1" too!!!
-
I am to the point where painting should start. Even with extra coffee, today just wasn't a painting day :-dal, so I decided to explore the fit of the upper wing. Everything I've read about the CA kit says the struts aren't right or the wing dihedral is wrong, etc. I did find that the upper wing of my example had more dihedral than it should have. I simply (very carefully) straightened it out by clamping half of the wing in my vise and applying some pressure. Then I slid the completed engine in place, laid the resin skis out, and propped the wing on the fuselage to see how it will look. I still haven't started exploring the actual struts--not the day for that either.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7908.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7909.jpg)
-
I can see we have some extremely good model makers here - nice to see the CR.42 as a popular subject for a group build, I've always liked this little biplane. Keep it up.
-
Jump in, Paul! :-tri We'd love to see another Falco project on this thread.
-
Even for a day off, nice study of the next steps, Scott!
-
Nice Scott. :-clap
-
Todays' cockpit and fuselage assembly seemed like a walk in the park, but tight fit made a nightmare out of it - it took me quite some time and corrections to set everything straight, hunting detached tiny PE parts in the process...
At the end (now) I didn't have any strength to finish the job and glue fuselage halves... Last pics of both builds show current state, and tomorrow I'll continue...
-
I like your cockpits! :-clap :-clap
-
Nice work, Profa!
-
With the morning coffee, I was singing to the Platters tune "Now it's drying time again, I'm gonna leave you..."
-
With the morning coffee, I was singing to the Platters tune "Now it's drying time again, I'm gonna leave you..."
No work today?
-
Not much here.....the skis are painted and ready for finishing touches.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7927.jpg)
I feel your pain with fitting the cockpit, Profa. In fact, I ended up narrowing the plate above the seat in order to fit it into the CA fuselage. Your instrument panels fit nicely, I see. :-ok
-
No work today?
Yes work today, only I had to drink my coffee first in order to see anything ;)
Scott, my plate is PE, and I couldn't see it won't fit by micrometer before everything was assemblied, and it bent just a little when closing the fuselage :-/
-
Good job boys! :)) :-flo
-
Today I have dealt mostly with mechanical processing - sanding fuselage joint, too prominent wing ribs, cutting off excess plastic and filling holes where PE parts are to come...
Tonight, when I found some spare time, wings were joined to the fuselage...
hmmm... forgot to make oil cooler inlet valves before joining the fuselage... :-wall Have tried to fill the holes with putty, but to make it look as close to real as possible... Don't like it, probably I'll just put inside piece of styrene to make it look fully open... :-think
More soon! :-wave
-
You made so excellent progress. :-clap
I like your work. ;)
-
This morning, during the inevitable coffee, I had to reapply putty to some places, and also horisontal stabilisers are glued to place...
Off to work :-/, more soon! :-wave
-
Nice!!!
-
After reading some reviews and thinking about how to do this over coffee, I tackled the wing strut problem on the CA kit. Even though there are some locating pins and corresponding holes in the wing surfaces it was still a bit of a struggle. If you build this kit, be advised that the instruction sheet in my example shows the two inboard-most vee struts (parts B5 and B17, directly in front of the cockpit) upside down.
I started to build a fixture to align everything but finally simply tack-glued the fuselage struts to the upper wing. This was the hardest part since the cabane struts are the foundation for aligning the wing in all three axes. I used a tiny dab of ca glue on each attachment. I had to remove a couple of struts to readjust but with so small an amount of superglue it pops off easily.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7932.jpg)
Then it was a bit simpler to install the outer strut sets, first the inboard pair, then the outers. To keep everything aligned I had to fill the furthest outboard strut locating holes in the upper wing and drill new ones inboard a tiny bit. Otherwise the lower attachments would be too far apart from each other where the inner and outer struts form the "V".
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7934.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7935.jpg)
And the entire assembly after final glue application.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7936.jpg)
I decided to attach the struts to the upper wing in this fashion for ease of painting. Final assembly might be rather tricky, but it fits pretty well so I think it'll work. Make sure you mark each of the struts with the corresponding part number from the instruction sheet. Each piece fits only one position on the wing and if they get mixed up it will mean even more test fitting. I will be curious to see how the other kits in this build designed the strut installation.
-
If you set up pin position in precise position, there will be no problem at all in later assembly.
-
Excellent work, Scott!!!
-
Nice alignment and good hint how to proceed :-flo
I'm still in the engine compartment, hoping to finish it by the end of the day :-think
-
Nice Scott! ;)
We wait your photos Profa! :))
-
Thanks y'all.
Profa, I believe your Italeri kit has better locating pins and holes than mine does. The CA version doesn't have any holes in the fuselage at all, only two oval scribed markings to show where the cabane struts go. So, hopefully, your initial aligning process should go easier than mine. If you haven't conquered the oil cooler inlet doors yet, here's a hint on how I built mine: I simply stretched some sprue and used the tapered end of the scrap to plug the hole in the wing root. I found the right diameter to fit snugly in the opening and then cut off the excess so that it would sit recessed in the hole. Sorry I didn't mention this earlier. :-red
-
Agree with you, 1/48 have all pins correct ;)
-
If you've noticed, Scott, I've used putty to fill the hole and tried to make it recessed. It doesn't look right, though, so I'll try to fix it before painting begins...
You might check it on some pics here as well...
Regarding struts - it's a long way to Tipperrary, so to say. Since I do the paintbrushing, struts go on only after everything is painted...
Sorry, had to make a break in typing to watch last few points in European Volleyball Championship - we just took the gold!!! :-tri :-jump :-tri
BTW, we beat Italians :-green
Back to CR.42 (Italian, hehehe :-green)...
Yesterday and today I was dealing with tiny PE guides for control cables (first few pics), then went to paint and build the engine - cables gave small headache, but nothing serious. Next was painting and weathering of the exhaust: after marvelous Vallejo Oil Steel I applied wet mixture of pigments. This is mat after drying, then hard brush was used to clean the excess material and burnish the rest on the plastic, so at the end there's just right metallic shine.
First two pics in this set show difference between mat and cleaned exhaust, and other two show dryfit of both engines...
-
Nice... And congrats for the victory!
-
Very good Profa! :-clap
-
Small update - it wasn't enough to detail the engine, I simply had to remove the cowl and make it open :-roll
-
:-ok
-
Congratulations on the Volleyball Championship, Profa, and on the progress you're making with the Falcos. The entire project is beautiful!
I didn't do much to mine today, just added the strut wires and PE aileron cable sets. Then I painted the underside with a mix of neutral grey and RLM 65 that is pretty close to Grigio Mimetico.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7942.jpg)
-
It is important that you are going forward :-ok
-
Small update from my side - at first I had some problems with engine cowling, and also some putty was needed on the joint between cowling and filter inlet, but now both are ready for painting...
For underside I'll use Humbrol 140, which everybody state as best shade of grigio mimetico...
-
Profa,are you using some primer,or you paint directly on plastic? :-think
-
Usually directly on plastic - have tried primer just once, and had really bad experience - look at http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/makete-aviona-aircraft-modeling/eduard-172-albatros-d-v-weekend-edition/msg12940/#msg12940.
Possibly I'll go with some acrylic light grey before yellow, to make surface more perceptible, and that's just because yellow is light shade and is Vallejo Acrylic. No primer whatsoever before enamel paints.
-
I also not use primer. It is reason why i ask you,becouse i know you also work with brush. ;)
Thank you for info. :-flo
-
Well done
-
Tonight I sprayed the Gaillo Mimetico 3 on the top surfaces. It will have plenty of time to cure before I apply the next two colors of mottled camouflage as we're going to be out of town for a few days. Time for my lovely wife and I to take a short vacation! :-cool
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7987.jpg)
-
Nice done basic camouflage and wish you nice time on vacation!
-
Good job Scott! And have a nice time. :-flo
-
Thanks, y'all! Ellen really needs the vacation more than I do. We'll be at a WWII Army Air Field reunion/open house in McCook, Nebraska for the weekend and then ? for a few more days. I'll still check in to see everyone elses efforts here......
-
Looks great!
-
Lots of job to do, barely some time to model... :-roll
Anyway, I found some time to fix sink-marks found on struts (first two pics) using CA glue, and to start painting lower surfaces Humbrol 140.
Pics 3-4 show first coat, then there's a comparison between one and two coats, and last pair of pics shows both planes with two coats. I have also painted lower surface of upper wing of the second plane flat black - this is Vallejo ModelColor.
First coat have dried for 3 days, until today I've found some time to continue... Next coat (and last, I hope) should follow tomorrow... Meanwhile I'll try to find appropriate Gialo Mimetico :-think
-
Excellent to see you making progress, Profa. I know what you mean about many jobs to do--we're at home but on vacation and I don't seem to have time to visit the model table.
If it will help, my project upper surfaces are in Gaillo Mimetico 3 and I found Humbrol 94 to be pretty close. I added a few drops of white to it to dull it a bit.
-
I was thinking the same way :-ok, only that I shall not use white - weathering will do the job :-think
-
Good progress!
-
I was thinking the same way :-ok, only that I shall not use white - weathering will do the job :-think
And in my case the base color will be less important when all is finished! ;)
-
Nice! :-ok
-
Noticing a crucial mistake - I have used tropical instead of common air inlet :-wall - I decided to correct it by scratchbuilding actual front part of it - for that I have used Nescafe foil...
Here are pics of shaved part and insert I have made. Along I'm putting the picture where one could see the difference between 2 and 3 paint coats on the upper wing...
Hoping to continue faster... :-wave
-
Had some more spare time today :-jump, so here's 4th (and last) layer of grigio mimetico underside...
-
Nice save on the intake duct!
I promise to try to get back to mine also.
-
Nice job! Good correction.. :-ok
-
Thanks for nice comments!
Scott, hardly wait to see proceedings on the cammo ;)
-
I just have to "get my mind right" before I start! Coffee isn't doing it this wonderful day......
-
After several cups of coffee and a day of chores my mind was clear :-cool. First the Verde Mimetico 3, then the beginnings of the Marrone Mimetico 2. I mixed both colors from MM paints and several color sample sources.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8276.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8278.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8281.jpg)
-
Are you use plastic chip to test colors before go on kit?
-
No, that was an just a copy of the C1 camouflage pattern from this website: http://www.stormomagazine.com/RegiaAeronauticaColorsinWWII_3a.htm
I had to decide whether the particular airplane I'm building was painted in the C1 or C1A schemes so I printed out the pattern for reference.
Painting the green and maroon took almost two hours if you count the coffee breaks.
-
Coffee helps :))
-
Nice camo, Scott!!!
-
What a great job! :-clap
-
Thanks, y'all. :-flo
As you can notice, the shadows were getting long when I finished this painting. I like to spray such patterns in the sunlight so I can see better. It took almost longer to get done than the available daylight. I do my painting in the garage and the overhead lights are alright for simple painting, but not this freehand stuff.
I set the upper wing on just for fun. This won't be finally attached until after the decals are on but I wanted to see how it looked.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8284.jpg)
-
...and it looks simply great - I think you got perfect tones :-ok
I just hope to get them the same way :-think
-
Looks great. ;)
-
:-ok
-
This evening, after really exhausting day, I have started upper cammo - here's first coat of Humbrol 94. Tamiya mask is used to obtain sharp demarcation between upper and lower camouflage. huh, there's looots of work to be done :-roll
Afterwards I have also painted wheels and assembled landing gear(s)...
BTW, today we've been on an all-day family picnic, and this is what I've done for the first time in my life :-jump:
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/th_jaxanje.jpg) (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/jaxanje.jpg)
-
Beautiful animal!! :-love Just look at his/her eyes! :-love
Nice progress on planes Profa. ;)
-
I grew up on a farm and my father and older sisters used horses to herd cattle. By the time I was old enough to start riding the sisters were married and no more horses for dad.
The airplane is looking great! I'll send along my color mix for you to try for the green/maroon if you'd like.
(A confession--I bought another Classic Airframes Cr.42 today :-roll One is not enough! :)))
-
Profa,
Here is the "formula" I came up with for the Verde: Model Master Dark Green FS34079 with a few drops of black to darken it. This may not be needed on a 1/72 model but I darkened mine to approximately FS34083.
Marrone: Seven parts MM Military Brown FS30117, three parts Insignia Red FS31136. Perhaps 6.5 to 3.5 or so, it just depends.
Scott
-
Well done Profa; for the CR42 but for th ehorse riding too...
-
Here's second layer of Hu94 on both planes, along with comparison between first and second coat on upper wings...
I reckon I'll need at least two more coats :-think
-
...and the third coat... It becomes a little bit boring... :-roll
on the positive side - one more of this, and then off to macchie verde e brune :-jump
-
:-ok
-
This project has been collecting dust for too long--the start of decal placement finally....
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8349.jpg)
-
:-ok
-
We're both a little slow, Scott, but progressing :-ok
-
:-ok
-
A few more decals made their way on today. Notice the national insignia are still wrinkled up from the MicroSol. These are the CA kit decals and really conform great with the setting solution. I had a different ship number in mind but the decals (left over from an old sheet) just couldn't be saved. :-/
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8378.jpg)
-
Looks nice!!!
-
As I know this should set down in 24 hours so this will be fine
-
Great! :-clap
-
As I know this should set down in 24 hours so this will be fine
Yes, they look great after only an hour or so. I used the same setting solution on my Bulgarian Bf-109 decals (Aeromaster) but the decals reacted strangely--the test decal rolled up and came off of the surface around the edges and stayed that way. It always pays to use a test decal from the same sheet first to make sure everything is compatible.
-
I know this roll effect, in some reason decal could become crackable and hard to turn back
-
The final few decals are in place and the entire machine is ready for flat clearcoat. After that will be the final assembly process. Today I offered up the completed skis to the airplane to ensure that everything aligns correctly.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8389.jpg)
The tailwheel fairing has to be trimmed away to fit the Swedish tail ski and I overlooked that little detail during the build. I was a bit concerned to have to take the Dremel tool and drum sander to the fairing at this late stage, but nothing fell off during the trimming. :-crazy
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8388.jpg)
-
I'm impatient to see it finished...
-
I like this moment, when put kit to stand :)
-
Me too. ;)
-
Ready for the finishing touches, the wing is temporarily sitting on the airplane right now. Final assembly won't be for a while yet.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8406.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8403.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8402.jpg)
-
It look great even in this stage ;)
-
Yes, I like it!!!
-
Because of other projects, these two were waiting for two weeks with finished Giallo Mimetico...
Late in the evening I've started Verde, but not too happy with the result - luckily, it's going to be easy to correct by adding some color to existing mottles...
Anyway, here they are for your comment, and I'll continue this evening...
-
Indeed, the Verde Mimetico have to be more consequent - But as you says, it's an easy correction to do and anyway, it's an excellent work! ;)
-
I like the shade :-ok
-
It looks very good to me, perhaps to darken the Verde on the upper right wing a tiny bit more. :-love
One thing about Regia Aeronautica camouflage schemes is that there is a huge variation in pattern, sometimes even between different aircraft in the same unit.
Great to see your progress, Profa!
-
Everything was freehand painted, therefore no two planes alike, and I love it :-jump
@Scott: yep, upper right wing was the last part I've painted, exactly when I've noticed that mottles are too small and too apart - then I just decided to call it the day and correct it today...
-
Because of other projects, these two were waiting for two weeks with finished Giallo Mimetico...
Late in the evening I've started Verde, but not too happy with the result - luckily, it's going to be easy to correct by adding some color to existing mottles...
Anyway, here they are for your comment, and I'll continue this evening...
Two in a row! Nice project. Like the camouflage patterns on fuselage and wings.
Primož
-
An update.....I finally decided to finish the paint scheme after flip-flopping :-think about the winter scheme for a couple of weeks:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8518.jpg)
Also, our "watchdog" doesn't like the vacuum cleaner and so she decided to take up the space under my junky workbench. This makes it rather hard to do any modeling! At least you can see the full cup of coffee so I had something to entertain me until she moved out..... :-paper
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8521.jpg)
-
:-ok :-clap
-
Nice white CR42, and nice dog... ;)
-
She is so sweet! :-love
-
How do you plan to weather this winter cammo? Think it should be scratched a little?
-
How do you plan to weather this winter cammo? Think it should be scratched a little?
I'm not certain yet how much weathering I'll do to the white. On one hand it could depict the airplane not long after the overcoating had been applied, or it could be at the end of the winter season and very dirty. At any rate, the Swedish maintainers kept their airplanes in a nice, clean condition for the most part so I don't think heavy weathering would be needed.
-
Apologies for the photos, I'll take more in better lighting at a later time. Still a tiny bit of weathering to accomplish before it goes on display.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8554.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8551.jpg)
-
Huh.. Looks so good and interesting! :-clap
Hardly wait to see it ready for showcase! ;)
-
Look attractive :)
-
Love it!!!
-
As I earlier pondered, only light weathering was done, primarily around the cowl flaps and underside of the engine cowling where the most "soot" and such normally appears. Other than that, here is my first Falco:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8583.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8582.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8585.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8586.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8580.jpg)
I had the flour out for cooking this morning so I decided to experiment a little. Bear with me--the concrete is showing on some of these!!! :-roll
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8574.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8572.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8579.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_8578.jpg)
-
:-ok Nice work mate ;)
-
Really excellent work!!! :-clap :-clap
Last 4 pics are won. :-tri :-tri Looks so cool! :-clap
-
My "snowscape" is just something that popped into my head when cooking. There was a breeze blowing hard enough to move my "snow" around but not enough to make drifts....... :-joke The extra set of ski-tracks are another option that I should have fixed. :-red
-
It's a jewel...
-
Great model! Congrats!
Primož