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Title: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 02, 2019, 07:14:46 PM
Wingman Models boxed the Kinetic Mirage IIIE with resin parts and decal sheet for Belgian Mirages 5BA/5BR.
The resin parts are nice but will ask for attention when removing from the carrots : some corrections will be needed.  The 1700L subsonic reservoirs presents lots of little bubbles in the resin at the top of the part, surrounding the fixation to the wing. That will ask for minutious work… Those reservoirs are in two elements ; assembly was OK but a little bit of putty is needed at the junction of the parts.
Decals are made with the help of DACO. DACO is producing many decals for Belgian aircrafts
Actually I don’t know if I will use the decal sheet of the box or the specail Mirage 5 decal sheet (also made by DACO)…
My documentation consists in two excellent books…
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 02, 2019, 07:15:32 PM
Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles...
...Putty, putty, putty...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 02, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
I plan to build a Mirage 5BR late version. Trying the fitting pf the clear part in the nose, I constated that the clear part is too large end deforms the plastic cover. So I have cut the clear part into three elements; that's better so doing the cover is not deformed...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 02, 2019, 07:35:10 PM
This look like so promising project!!!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 03, 2019, 09:42:07 AM
Yes, but I think that lot of work will be needed...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 03, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
The interior of the camera cover is painted in black ; same for the other little windows
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 03, 2019, 08:13:42 PM
Black for effect or interior was real black?
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 04, 2019, 05:42:10 AM
Interior was black. More than that if you look at photos of the 5BR, all the cameras  windows seem To be black
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 04, 2019, 06:01:02 AM
Thanks :))
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on February 07, 2019, 11:15:00 PM
lots o bubbles..... lots of work but seems well worth it, keep it on mate !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 08, 2019, 05:42:09 AM
Thank you mate
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 13, 2019, 06:27:20 PM
The nose looks OK now. I have to repaint in glossy black all the windows. I've put miliput in the interior; that will give some weight and more than that, that will avoid the fact that in the building process some windows to fall out of their emplacement.

For the fuel tanks, I completed the putty with cyano at some locations. Sanding done. But the attachment system to the wing don't fit; I will have to use evergereen and probably miliput too...

I've also looked how the resin "BA" nose would fit: poorly, really poorly... It is a little bit too big...

Actually I'm a little bit deceived by the kit...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 13, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
One detail- did you clean up this resin with acetone first, then go with filler?
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 13, 2019, 07:22:23 PM
I cleaned the resin with wash soap...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on February 14, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
You can make a great glass effect with Vallejo still water. It equalize itself by gravity and you will have perfect glass effect. I use it before for periscopes on AFV models
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 14, 2019, 06:25:09 PM
You can make a great glass effect with Vallejo still water. It equalize itself by gravity and you will have perfect glass effect. I use it before for periscopes on AFV models

Thank you for the tip! :)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on February 18, 2019, 06:53:58 PM
 :-ok
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: Second Air Force on February 20, 2019, 02:10:40 AM
Lovely project!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 20, 2019, 05:42:30 AM
Thank you my friend
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 23, 2019, 12:15:51 PM
The 1700L fuel tanks received putty again for some gaps... There are asking for a long work!
I've also sanded the recce nose to equalize the camera door with the nose. Sounds better; but I have to use some Vallejo putty for the junction that is not pleasant actually.
Prudence asks me to prepare a "plan B" so I'm also working on the attack version nose (BA). Again, resin is not perfect and there were some little gaps to fill with Tamiya White Putty...
"Patience et longueur de temps..." (Patience and lot of time spent...)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 23, 2019, 02:14:38 PM
Maybe nose from old Heller Mirage IIIR could be better?
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 23, 2019, 04:49:03 PM
Maybe nose from old Heller Mirage IIIR could be better?
Well,  it's possible but those noses can be Nice- but are asking for lot of work...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 24, 2019, 12:01:00 PM
After three times using cyano/putty and then sanding, the fuel tanks look a little bit better!
Another big problem with the kit: the resin instrument panel for the Belgain version is not correct (central part of the panel). So I've cut one of the instrument panels furnished with the Kinetic kit; cut the central part; sanded the central part of the resin part and then glued the plastic element.
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 24, 2019, 12:58:25 PM
Well, this turn into nice educational subject, now know that instrument panel on belgian Mirage 5 was different! Excellent!!!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 24, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
Yes  thank you.
...But big mistake from Wingman...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on February 24, 2019, 08:05:22 PM
I have removed the original tail of the Kinetic kit, to use the "late" type... (resin part from Wingman)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on February 24, 2019, 08:32:11 PM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: Second Air Force on February 25, 2019, 12:40:56 AM
Resin-corrector!!!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on March 03, 2019, 06:23:46 PM
lot of work mate ! looks excellent !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 04, 2019, 08:09:32 AM
Thank you!

Well, I really don't want to use "plan B"; so I came back on the recce nose again! I've used Vallejo putty to reduce the jointure between the windows door and the nose. Look better now.
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on March 04, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Thank you!

Well, I really don't want to use "plan B"; so I came back on the recce nose again! I've used Vallejo putty to reduce the jointure between the windows door and the nose. Look better now.

LetLetLet modelers win battle on alle fronts :)) great result, no doubt about you ;)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 04, 2019, 09:15:58 AM
Thank you my friend
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 09, 2019, 10:08:08 AM
Little progress: need to remove some plastic, to let some place for resin part...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on March 09, 2019, 11:02:23 AM
Nice step by step explanation, thanks :)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 09, 2019, 04:37:15 PM
My pleasure my friend
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: Second Air Force on March 10, 2019, 03:19:14 PM
Lots of little changes and some big ones, also!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on March 10, 2019, 06:42:42 PM
Lot of surgery, keep on the good work mate !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 11, 2019, 05:46:19 AM
Thank you my friends
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 18, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Correction due to a problem when I removed the resin carrot of that part...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on March 18, 2019, 07:52:41 PM
This is so complex element!!!
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on March 18, 2019, 10:00:46 PM
Belgians removed the cover...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on March 19, 2019, 07:19:22 PM
excellent !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on May 28, 2019, 07:24:11 PM
So, the detail set from Scaleworx landed today at home...
I need that set for the arrester hook: the one of the Mirage IIIDZ is similar to the one of the Mirage 5 (the one of the kit and the resin replacement part are not correct for Belgian Mirages).
Since the time I put the kit on the shelve, I've carefully examinated the recce nose and I'm definitively unhappy with that part... I think I will finally build a Mirage 5 BA...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on May 28, 2019, 09:11:04 PM
Compared with all of this, my Mirage V from heller look like toy
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on June 03, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
Is this ever going to be ended  :-green :-green :-green :-green just a joke mate, well done keep up the good work !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 03, 2019, 04:27:10 PM
Thank you friends.
Heller kit was not bad at all...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 06, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
My friend Pascal (who is building a 1/1 Kiebitz...) convinced me to give a last try to the recce version; using miliput to correct all the defaults of the nose.
Why not???
Still in progress...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on June 06, 2019, 10:11:05 PM
Cover windiws with epoxy? All right, lets see how it will end
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 07, 2019, 05:35:23 AM
Cover windiws with epoxy? All right, lets see how it will end
I will paint the windows in glossy black...
The result will determinate if I build a BR or a BA...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 07, 2019, 09:26:50 PM
BR nose sanded. Now I have to re-engrave the edges of the door trap... After that, painting of glossy black on the windows and we will see if it's good enough to continue with a BR...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on June 07, 2019, 09:56:58 PM
Just wonder is it possible to add some black tink into Microset Clear and make dark windows?
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 07, 2019, 10:08:42 PM
Well, maybe... I didn't have think to that possibility...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 09, 2019, 06:31:46 PM
Cameras Door trap re-engraved... (not really visible on the photos)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on June 09, 2019, 06:40:45 PM
Hahaha- and if there is any dust or scratch, this could be definitely visible! Maybe time to create set of Murphy law for aviation modelers :))
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 10, 2019, 08:02:08 AM
Hahaha- and if there is any dust or scratch, this could be definitely visible! Maybe time to create set of Murphy law for aviation modelers :))
Yes, true 😁
But I still have the option to build a BA...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on June 13, 2019, 12:38:21 AM
WOAH , I can't tell you anything my friend except this is one hell of the work ! Well done !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 13, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
Thank you my friend
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 17, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
White primer on the fuel tanks reveals that some gaps need to be filled again...  :-wall :-wall :-wall
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on June 17, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Wash it with acetone before...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 18, 2019, 07:55:32 PM
Good idea,  thank you
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 21, 2019, 04:19:49 PM
Mr Surfacer 500 is used for the fuel tanks. For what concerns the BR nose, things look good enough now. Next phase will be to delimit the windows with masking tape and then to airbrush black paint
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on June 24, 2019, 07:32:32 PM
looks good !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on June 25, 2019, 07:32:35 PM
Thank you!

Yesterday I've airbrushed a matt black base on the windows of the recce nose. Today was too hot here in Belgium to work with airbrush...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 04, 2019, 08:16:34 PM
Not really an appealing photo but...  :-green
After the matt black as base color, I've airbrushed glossy blaxk (Tamiya X1)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 06, 2019, 08:45:02 PM
Result looks like expected  :)
Now, to mask the camera windows...  ;)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 07, 2019, 04:21:32 PM
Masking tape positioned.
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on July 07, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
I have just wait to see this step and I am so impressed with precision!!! Free hand or some kind of template for cut?
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 07, 2019, 05:40:40 PM
No my friend, Wingman gives  masking tape  caches  for the kit
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on July 21, 2019, 08:43:52 PM
looks better and better every time !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 22, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
Thank you my friend. Primer on the recce nose will determine the version I will finally build (BA or BR)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 27, 2019, 09:14:45 AM
That f.cking recce nose asked for lot and lot of work... But primer reveals the truth: the interpanel between the canera door and the nose is perfect!
So, now I can affirm definitively that I will build the Mirage 5BR  :-love

Next phase: to try to obtain good result on the fuel tanks: I have to sand the putty put on the last holes...
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on July 27, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
Perfect :))
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: modellius on July 27, 2019, 01:42:15 PM
excellent mate !
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on July 27, 2019, 07:20:14 PM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: draken35 on September 15, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
Slowly restarting the work...

I've placed the Scaleworx part for Mirage III CZ (but also correct for Belgian Mirage 5). Not fitting perfectly; I've tried to correct the part but broked it... Not a real problem; all is in place now; It just needed a little bit of putty (AK gray putty used).
I've also used Vallejo putty and, like for the 1/72 PJ kit, added a louve (made from sprue and evergreen) on the left side of the fuselage.
Title: Re: Belgian Mirage 5 (Wingman 1/48)
Post by: No.1 on September 15, 2019, 07:13:16 PM
Must say that level of details is incredible!!