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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Aircraft Modeling => Topic started by: Second Air Force on July 28, 2011, 07:06:04 AM

Title: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 28, 2011, 07:06:04 AM
Something a little different in my next salvage project. Yesterday I was digging in the spares boxes and kept finding parts of two old Monogram P-39s. Eventually I found enough pieces to build one from the two, so decided to restore the bits into a complete model. I'm not going to bore everyone with all the paint stripping--you've seen enough of that already. :-paper This will eventually become a P-39N that was handed on from the USAAF to another fighting force. (I'll let y'all guess at who used it after the AAF handed it over.)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7577.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on July 28, 2011, 08:08:09 AM
One of my favorite aircrafts from WW2 :-ok
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Sall on July 28, 2011, 10:29:47 AM
Lets go to work Scott! ;)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: dragan_mig31 on July 28, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
I love restoration jobs.Great modelling Second Air Force.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 28, 2011, 04:10:17 PM
I love restoration jobs.Great modelling Second Air Force.

I should send you something from my "collection" to restore! I've still got a few more rebuild projects in the boxes that (I think) have all the pieces. My big problem is digging through three or four boxes of parts to find all the bits that have broken off over the last twenty years of household moves.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 28, 2011, 07:37:29 PM
Now that you fellows have encouraged my junk-fishing expedition, I did more digging and pulled this out of the piles. I'll spend some time this weekend trying to find the stabilizers, gear, and other pieces that I don't think I still have. If there is enough to put together I'll go ahead and restore both of the models. Incidentally, the Soviet markings on this one were actually for a P-40 and I just used "artistic license" by applying them to the Airacobra. :-roll
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7579.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on July 28, 2011, 07:41:19 PM
I like interior green, it is almost like on P-39 ;)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 29, 2011, 07:32:57 AM
Good old Monogram green plastic! It is somewhat brittle but that makes disassembling the pieces that much easier.

I'm going to do the second airplane (providing I find the stabilizers) in an accurate Soviet scheme, preferably as a P-39Q-21 with the four-blade propeller. If I'm able to find the material I have some good pictures of Lend-Lease Q-21s to select from.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: dragan_mig31 on July 29, 2011, 05:03:44 PM
If you have 1:72 jets that you don't need anymore write me a list and I'll be glad to buy the stuff I am after :)


I love restoration jobs.Great modelling Second Air Force.

I should send you something from my "collection" to restore! I've still got a few more rebuild projects in the boxes that (I think) have all the pieces. My big problem is digging through three or four boxes of parts to find all the bits that have broken off over the last twenty years of household moves.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 29, 2011, 05:32:29 PM
I built some 1/72 jets, mostly from the 1950s and 60s for my little brother. He may still have them and I'll be glad to ask. I do still have my little RF-84K FICON model that goes with an RB-36 for later restoration. If anything is still available I'll let you know!
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: dragan_mig31 on July 29, 2011, 05:51:32 PM
No problem :) Thanks al ot :D
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 30, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
I've been fortunate enough to find most of the big pieces for the second Airacobra. What I didn't rediscover I simply made out of styrene. The exhausts on this one were dug from the spares box. When I started removing the decals on this one I found U.S. markings under the top layer of paint. I must have "overhauled" this model way back when but all I remember is applying the Soviet markings.......... :-roll With both models on the bench I have the makings of a "Cobra Den" on my desk. ;)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7584.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: dragan_mig31 on July 31, 2011, 01:28:19 AM
you can always use  MR.MUSCLE oven cleaner to take off the paint and decals.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 31, 2011, 03:52:38 AM
Great minds think alike! :-joke Here's the brand I've been using:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6600.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on July 31, 2011, 08:27:02 AM
There is many way to remove top coat on plastic kits ;)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: dragan_mig31 on July 31, 2011, 01:25:48 PM
He he you are right :) I've used this on many kit restorations.Mayber around 20-25 in my carrier.It works like a charm.

Great minds think alike! :-joke Here's the brand I've been using:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_6600.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on July 31, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
No.1 suggested a mixture of alcohol and acetone and that works great, too. I found that Easy-0ff doesn't have much of an effect on flat black or yellow for some reason but the acetone/alcohol combo softens both colors.

On the Cobra projects, the missing gear doors and nose wheel, with half the strut fork still attached, were discovered in the "landing gear" parts bag last night. Frankly I am amazed that I found enough of the parts to repair both kits. I'm working on repairing the propeller for the second ship now as it's missing one blade and another is pretty badly bent.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Sall on July 31, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
@all
So,there are few ways to solve problem about removing paint. Mr.Muscle,Easy-OFF, mixture of acetone and alcohol... It is useful to know! ;)

@Scott
I'm glad you have found parts to repair both kits. :-tri  :-clap Never to surrender! ;)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on August 01, 2011, 07:39:16 AM
I started the day with high hopes of getting some serious model-building done, but my microwave oven decided it needed to be worked on instead. :-wall After getting that magic box working again I still had enough time to prep both P-39s with primer and sprayed the bottom neutral grey on.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7597.jpg)

After that little chore I spent a bit of time reworking the propeller for the Soviet Q-21. I got out the trusty compass and divided the correct diameter circle into four sections for alignment purposes. I then filled two blade openings in the spinner, leaving one for blade 1. Next was to mark for the other three blades and drill the appropriate holes. The propeller was missing a blade when I found it in the spares box so I rummaged through the drawers to find two more matching blades.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7596.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on August 01, 2011, 08:03:25 AM
I still remember old Heller kit in 1/72 scale which have two propellers inside :)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on August 01, 2011, 08:14:23 AM
Eduard supplies several prop options in their 1/48 Airacobra also, I think. In my case I'm just using up my extra parts to make these old things more presentable. I'd always wanted to build a P-39 with the four-blade propeller and this was as good a time as any.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Sall on August 01, 2011, 11:26:03 AM
Once again,Scott's production line! :-tri :-clap  :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on August 03, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
Small progress on the Cobra production line. It's really too darned hot to paint here--today is forecast to hit 47 Celsius!!!!!!!! :-danger I'm really looking forward to work today as I'll be on the apron with our Flight Test department all afternoon......... :-roll
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7603.jpg)
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Sall on August 03, 2011, 09:20:25 PM
Good Scott... I like thos birds! :-clap
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on August 04, 2011, 01:31:24 PM
47C!!!!
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on August 04, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
47C!!!!

It didn't quite make it to 47C--I sometimes take a thermometer along out to the flight line when I'm going to be there a long time and it peaked at 115F. It didn't quite make it to the all-time Oklahoma record which was 116F set during the Dust Bowl in the 1930s. The humidity has been quite low so it reminds me of working in the desert of Arizona. As long as you drink plenty of water it isn't too bad. The worst part is that the airplane is so darned hot that gloves are almost required to work on it!
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Second Air Force on August 08, 2011, 05:02:53 AM
The P-39 refurbishment is complete after finishing up both projects today. Here are a few photos of these old crates after going through the resto-shop.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7612.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7611.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7610.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/IMG_7615.jpg)

The Italian P-39N-1 has been "built" three times now, first carrying U.S. colors, then Soviet, and now Co-Belligerent from the 97th Squadriglia. It's fairly possible that this Cobra may have flown missions near my father when he was in Italy with U.S. 1st Armored Division.

The VVS airplane is probably a P-39Q-21 since it had a four-blade propeller. No concrete info exists as to which unit it may have been assigned to, but a picture of it was taken in Poland in 1944. The main source for research on this bird believes it was a training airplane.
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: No.1 on August 08, 2011, 06:55:56 AM
Even as old they look good
Title: Re: Airacobra Under New Management
Post by: Sall on August 08, 2011, 10:34:58 AM
I like those birds mate. Looks cool! :-clap :-clap :-clap