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Title: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 02, 2017, 11:56:57 PM
Here's a project I have had in storage since the early 1990s. Back then we drove mostly air-cooled VWs for daily transportation and I began to research the fascinating early days of the Volkswagen family. With that in mind I bought a couple of 1/16 scale Kafer kits and later on picked up two Kubels from Tamiya to supplement my plans.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF119/IMG_4274_zps6eowyjx5.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF119/IMG_4274_zps6eowyjx5.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF119/IMG_4275_zpsu1kits46.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF119/IMG_4275_zpsu1kits46.jpg.html)

Originally I started to back-date the early fifties sedan in the Revell kit to the wartime configuration, and the Tamiya drivetrain parts were later added in to sweeten the brew:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF119/IMG_4273_zpsddxhslqb.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF119/IMG_4273_zpsddxhslqb.jpg.html)

Here are a few of the resin parts I cast twenty years ago and also the upgraded wheelsets that I modified from the Tamiya pieces with my own machined hubs. Also you can see the mostly scratchbuilt front trunk and body interior sections:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF119/IMG_4272_zpsrsc3rfaw.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF119/IMG_4272_zpsrsc3rfaw.jpg.html)

And a quick photo of the body after most of the conversion back to a 1942 Typ 82 configuration:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF119/IMG_4271_zpsyvmhal9m.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF119/IMG_4271_zpsyvmhal9m.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on May 03, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Great!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on May 03, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
This is great and popular :-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 03, 2017, 10:49:01 PM
Thanks, my friends!

Recently I've become very interested in finding another old VW (1:1 scale) to restore before I grow too old to enjoy a project. I'm actively looking for something between late 1940s and 1957......So, I've gotten all my old Volkswagen history and reference books out of storage and felt it was the right time to work on this model while I search for a real Beetle!

This evening the inner rims were finally fabricated. The Revell kit has some rather poor parts for the "back" halves of the wheels so I took the front halves and machined the centers out of them. By doing this the proper dish of the wheels will be visible under the car and the brake drums and backing plate will have the proper offset:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF121/IMG_4287_zpsmcsbmm3j.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF121/IMG_4287_zpsmcsbmm3j.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF121/IMG_4288_zpspbohbngn.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF121/IMG_4288_zpspbohbngn.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF121/IMG_4289_zpseyqrufgg.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF121/IMG_4289_zpseyqrufgg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 07, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
Have you ever started up a project that has been on hold for a while? Each time I study this one I remember what I was thinking during the earlier attempt, even though the first time was twenty years ago.......! Tonight I worked on the seat frames a little, using the metal framework I scratchbuilt long ago. The rear seat and "luggage" tray were already in basic form and only required some extra fitting:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF123/IMG_4291_zpsih9mgnfn.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF123/IMG_4291_zpsih9mgnfn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on May 07, 2017, 05:50:04 AM
Hahaha- have I ever start project and keep it on hold? I can feel entire big web site with such projects  :-wall :-wall :-wall
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on May 07, 2017, 01:13:49 PM
Hahaha- have I ever start project and keep it on hold? I can feel entire big web site with such projects  :-wall :-wall :-wall

Me too...
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 07, 2017, 02:38:42 PM
Ha! We three are among many, I reckon!!!!!

The really bad thing about this build coming back from the closet is that it will probably become expensive--I've found a real sedan that I would dearly like to buy and start working on........I have come to the conclusion that physically I only have time enough for one restoration project left to me and the time to enjoy it when it is completed, so it's time to find a Beetle soon. I wanted a Split-window, but it looks like an Oval (1956) is more in my affordability range.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 29, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
A small bit of work on the Beetle, firstly I was able to roughly start the seat frames and begin fitting the backs to the lowers, then a fit-check into the car:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF124/IMG_4302_zps7wnf7lga.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF124/IMG_4302_zps7wnf7lga.jpg.html)

Next was time to start working on the engine and transaxle from the Tamiya Kubelwagen. These parts are excellent and really represent the real thing well. Best part was that I don't have to get my hands as dirty working on this plastic one, unlike the 1/1 scale item! The first photo shows that some adapting has to be done to change the cooling fan shroud to the shape of the sedan shroud.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF124/IMG_4303_zps5k5fuuhl.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF124/IMG_4303_zps5k5fuuhl.jpg.html)

Then, some paint to get started!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF124/IMG_4304_zpsd0d7rmrc.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF124/IMG_4304_zpsd0d7rmrc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on May 29, 2017, 06:25:52 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on May 29, 2017, 10:36:21 PM
Thanks, my friend!

This project has really "lit my fire" to find another real Beetle to restore--know of any late forties or early fifties VWs for sale? (I missed out on a nice project not far from my home two weeks ago.....)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on July 20, 2017, 03:01:16 AM
I'll bet you all thought that I had stopped altogether, but I haven't...... here is the primary assembly of the VW powerplant that will eventually go into this Kafer:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF130/IMG_4348_zpsgzxznmvp.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF130/IMG_4348_zpsgzxznmvp.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on July 25, 2017, 01:43:21 AM
Well, I've done it now--I'm moving on to a 1/1 scale VW project to go along with this smaller one.......we've finally found a very early 1956 sedan and the best part of it is that it is a stripped-down Standard version. It'll be a month or so until we actually take possession, and then the restoration can begin!
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF132/IMG_5632_zpsp6twxcnn.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF132/IMG_5632_zpsp6twxcnn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on July 25, 2017, 05:01:50 AM
Restorer in blood :))
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on July 25, 2017, 12:17:10 PM
Yes. We drove air cooled VWs for many years but eventually had to sell everything. Only now, 14 years later, I have been bitten by the "Bug" once again. This will take a while to restore, but it has one great feature--no rust! Most of the old VWs around here are all rusted out and beaten up from years of use but this one is very, very solid and will be easy to get back to good condition. An added plus is that it still has the original engine in it. I don't know of its condition, but hope I can rebuild it.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 07, 2017, 01:19:06 AM
Back to the 1/16 version, I've substantially completed the "power egg" except for wiring the distributor, generator and starter. Just for fun it was installed temporarily into the chassis for a final fit-check and now it's time to move on to the next phase of the project.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF134/IMG_4384_zpsyughk3ff.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF134/IMG_4384_zpsyughk3ff.jpg.html)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF134/IMG_4385_zpsf5tazhtf.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF134/IMG_4385_zpsf5tazhtf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on August 07, 2017, 06:06:06 AM
Look like real :))
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 07, 2017, 11:45:50 AM
Tamiya makes it easy!!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on August 07, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
looks fantastic mate !
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 08, 2017, 03:06:13 AM
Thanks, mates.

Now I will start on some of the interior fittings, starting with the footboards that were so common on WWII VWs.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 10, 2017, 06:34:52 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 11, 2017, 01:05:43 AM
Thank you!

I'm not able to devote a lot of time to this right now as I am converting a woodworking shop space into a new home for the 1/1 Beetle. Still I found time to start the footboards using the Tamiya Kubel parts as a basic pattern and photos of KdF Wagens in my vast VW book collection.....
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/2AF/2AF135/IMG_4386_zpsu5xetyix.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/2AF/media/2AF135/IMG_4386_zpsu5xetyix.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 12, 2017, 08:52:54 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 13, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
Thank you!

The seats are properly modified now (removed the pleats on the bottom cushion and made new "legs") and so are the footboards:
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on August 13, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
 :-ok :-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 14, 2017, 12:58:00 AM
Still more Evergreen used to make the stiffeners around the back windows. The kit doesn't mold these because there is headliner fabric on the Deluxe civilian car. This military version had no headliner back here and the stiffeners show up easily. Next was to add the clamps and wing nuts for the seat adjusters and to add some inner detail under each seat. Then, it was finally primer day for the main body, with some small corrections still required.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 14, 2017, 08:22:30 AM
Waouw ...
Stunning Work!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on August 15, 2017, 11:16:44 AM
Superb work ! real pleasure to watch this progress
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 15, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
Thanks, friends!

Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 24, 2017, 01:33:51 AM
Not enough time really to work on this, but the front hood prop rod has been fabricated. Originally I intended to make the prop fold just like the original does but I finally decided to simply fix the rod and I'll just remove it to close the hood.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 24, 2017, 06:33:02 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on August 26, 2017, 10:42:07 AM
Just enjoy and relay ;)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 26, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
A confession--I have only worked on this one lately when I cannot sleep. I'll wake up and work on the little car for a few minutes and then I can go back to bed till morning. It's been working, I still get a night's sleep and the car is making some forward movement!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 26, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
Same method for me... Frequently...
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on August 27, 2017, 03:11:07 PM
Yes, and when I awake sometimes it is Rebecca, our Dachshund-mix that causes it--she feels a need to stand on the doorstep and scan the property for intruders.......

Progress on the KdF Wagen is going well enough that I can now start to adjust the suspension system. As you know from the beginning of this thread, I'm building a Typ 82e which was the standard Beetle body on the Kubelwagen raised chassis. Getting the rear wheel correctly positioned in the wheelwell is easy since I've used entirely Tamiya Kubel components. The front axle is a mix of Revell axle beam and some Tamiya parts. This photo shows the buildup of the raised spindle on the left. I'm satisfied now with this one and next I'll begin the right one.

Also, notice the small Evergreen strip on the door post. The semaphores on the car I'm building were removed from the door posts and a strip of metal filled the opening. Later the Wehrmacht decided to add turn signals but mounted them on the upper door hinges.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on August 27, 2017, 08:25:29 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on September 27, 2017, 01:06:37 AM
Small steps forward on this one. We've gotten back from our annual vacation trip and it is time I do something, even if it is only to paint the back halves of the wheels and brake assemblies. Once this is dry I can paint the front faces of the rims and then it will be time to get the ride height and wheelbase spacings figured out.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on September 27, 2017, 06:20:35 AM
 :-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on September 28, 2017, 12:44:51 PM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on October 05, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
looks good, nice progress mate
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 08, 2017, 04:55:58 AM
The left wheels are now in proper position after some small adjustments. I've found it wasn't easy getting the left rear located properly in the wheel opening, especially since everything is in three dimensions! Once satisfied with the left rear I was able to mount the right rear much easier!

Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on October 08, 2017, 05:44:56 AM
Front wheels, they can be adjusted in direction or fixed?
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 08, 2017, 02:41:09 PM
I think the kit designed them for turning left and right but I glued the assemblies together for strength. The kingpins had to be modified with drilled holes to raise the car to Kubelwagen height and that really weakened the kingpins. When I built that front axle (twenty years ago) I was still taking models to competitions and I wanted to make sure everything was sturdy for when the car traveled.

 As an aside--I once shipped a Nascar model to a friend of mine in Australia and he entered it in the Australian IPMS Nationals for me. I boxed it up in foam, shipped it via the Post both ways and it suffered NO damage!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on October 09, 2017, 06:02:23 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 12, 2017, 01:18:41 AM
Step by step, finally this little Bug will sit on four wheels when it's done!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on October 12, 2017, 06:16:04 AM
Look the same as in repair shop :))
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 12, 2017, 08:04:15 AM
Yes, 1/1 scale is also on jacks right now! I'm collecting some hard-to-find parts for the full-size car right now, especially electrical switches that are peculiar to the Standard Beetle. The Standard was never imported officially into the U.S. so I'm sourcing the rarer parts from all over!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 14, 2017, 01:07:45 AM
I'm quite lazy and should start a different thread for the full-sized car, but here you see I've begun to remove the horrible white respray. Fortunately for me I think the interior can be stripped of the white and the original Jupiter Grey can be polished. The goal is to keep as much original paint on the interior surfaces as I can and repaint the exterior only.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on October 14, 2017, 03:10:21 AM
And on the 1/16 version, the first painting has begun. The wheels are essentially complete now and I also sprayed part of the trunk and dashboard so I can start scratchbuilding the speedometer and wiring harness that sits behind the dash.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on October 14, 2017, 05:06:36 AM
:-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on October 16, 2017, 07:58:02 PM
nice !
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 04, 2017, 08:08:46 PM
Thanks!

Sorry to take so long for an update. I've decided to continue on a "modular" concept with this build, so the trunk is going to be more-or-less completed first. After painting the entire inside of the trunk it was time to fit the liner to the trunk. This was a two-piece cardboard material that was dropped on top of the metal floor as a protector. Photos show this still in use on the early military Beetles so I fabricated one out of typing paper. After proper fitting it was painted black and glued in place. Also, though it is almost invisible, I've completed the speedometer and switches installation and added the wiring.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on November 04, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
I like dark color on inside elements :-ok
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 04, 2017, 09:18:52 PM
Schwartzgrau for Panzers is the color I'm using. When deciding on a car to build I fell on one very early vehicle that is painted Panzer-grey rather than the later desert tan. Most of the restored 1/1 scale cars are in tan and I can't ever go with the popular variant..... Also it looks like most of the KdF bodied military cars that Porsche developed in experimental form were painted in Schwartzgrau and I almost decided to do a four-wheel drive Kommandeurwagen at one point. By then I was very happy to do the car in the grey scheme.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on November 05, 2017, 09:33:10 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 05, 2017, 01:48:39 PM
Thank you!

I divided work between Ingrid the 1/1 VW and this smaller one yesterday. It's rather fun to jump back and forth, and it so happens I was working in the front trunk of the real one also....
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 06, 2017, 12:47:53 AM
Time now to work on the opposite end of the car. Remember that I used the wonderful Tamiya Kubelwagen engine for this car. The Revell engine compartment doesn't quite match up to the engine cooling tinwork so some Evergreen strips were used to modify the opening and plug the gaps. Really the Revell engine is over-scale in size so that explains the difference.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: draken35 on November 06, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
Good!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on November 06, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
looking better and better every time, well done mate !
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 13, 2017, 02:18:55 AM
Thanks, friends!

Again the airbrush was loaded with Panzer grey and the inside parts of the body and interior panels got their first coat. Right now I'm working on a way to paint the window seals on the interior. As you know if you've ever been in a Beetle, the rubber window seals are very visible on both the interior and exterior of the car. In addition, Revell saw fit to sandwich the glass between the body and the inner headliner panel so there is a pesky mold line on each glass that I have to work on......
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on November 13, 2017, 05:40:11 PM
still lot to do, but looks great, will be a nice one no doubt !
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 14, 2017, 12:55:38 AM
Hopefully it will turn out as I planned!

Tonight I sprayed grey from a new bottle of paint and I am a little unhappy. I used the same brand (Testors) but it looks like the new supply is quite a bit darker than the several year old bottle I started with. Perhaps I'll have to respray everything that is already finished, but this is a good time to find the problem rather than later!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 18, 2017, 02:13:36 AM
Tonight was the final primer day for this one. Several small areas needed repriming and the left door was sanded and grey primer sprayed over the red oxide from twenty years ago. I've also mixed my paint to the correct shade and resprayed some parts to match the original paint. After all paint was dry I fitted the interior parts one last time and made some tiny corrections. Next step will be to spray the exterior of the body.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on November 18, 2017, 06:09:22 AM
This grey primer look's like military color (in this stage)
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 19, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
That is the grey primer I always have used, and it is a good duplicate for some military grey colors! It is marketed through NAPA auto part stores here in the U.S. The nice thing is that I can also use it on Ingrid when I start the body work on the 1/1 car.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on November 19, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
looks better and better every time, and no doubt ingrid will be a masterpiece
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 23, 2017, 02:32:03 AM
Believe it or not, I've also done some small works on Ingrid this week. I made steel plugs to weld into all the extra holes that were created by a prior owner to add chrome strips and also to fill where turn signal lights were bolted to all four fenders.

Back to this one, the glass was masked and the weatherstripping painted on each pane. Next I assembled the Notek front and rear blackout lights and horn. Finally on this installment I found two acceptable headlight housings for inside the fenders--two spare I-16 spinners from the Eduard kits I've built in the last few years!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2017, 06:12:14 AM
I-16 spinners... :)) excellent!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on November 23, 2017, 05:14:13 PM
Yes, I was really concerned about how to make the headlight "buckets" and immediately thought of the most squared-off spinners that Eduard has in their kits as an option. Thankfully I had two of them!! Just had to fill in the propeller blade slots and hole in center and had an instant bucket.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: modellius on November 27, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
excellent !
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on December 03, 2017, 03:40:43 PM
I've had to "re-learn" basic modeling skills on this one.......I was all set up to spray the Panzergrau on the outside of all body parts when I thought about first cleaning my airbrush. It's been a while since I really used it, so I thought it was probably clean enough, especially since I was spraying flat paint. As you can guess, I failed! When spraying the front bonnet and both doors the brush began to spit so everything got shut down for an intense cleaning session. I did get the main shell painted before the problems started, so there was some progress........however, I'm now re-sanding the other parts and the airbrush will be sparkling clean when I go back to the paint booth.
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on December 03, 2017, 03:42:51 PM
One of these days I guess ;))
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on December 03, 2017, 04:14:15 PM
Sure, someday!

I just seem to NEVER have enough time to devote to the model bench lately. I've all kinds of aircraft I'd like to start on (it's been a long time since I did a Bf 109, for example) and this poor VW needs completion. Even Ingrid has gotten very little attention other than finding parts. Problem is, I've been working seven days a week at my real job quite a lot. In a few weeks I'll have Christmas vacation so maybe then I can sit at the work bench and produce some relaxation!!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on December 04, 2017, 02:49:43 AM
I've corrected the paint on the doors and bonnet, then I found a place on the body shell that is bothering me so I'm repairing that also. I then wandered out to the shop and spent a little time stripping paint from Ingrid--the white respray was a quality paint and it's not fun to remove! So far it is worth it, though as the original grey is really smooth and shiny after stripping. Not bad for 61 year old paint!
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2017, 04:52:41 AM
Archeology work :)) and grey color is interesting shade
Title: Re: Something New (and Old) VW Sedan
Post by: Second Air Force on December 04, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
It's called Jupiter Grey and was one of only two colors normally offered on a Standard. The Deluxe colors could be special ordered for extra money.
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 07, 2017, 01:46:30 AM
Back on the military car, I've started building the "cow-catcher" bumper guards that were used on the KdF Wagen and military version. Quite simple to make, just styrene, a file, some sandpaper and patience. I'm trying to decide whether to make a resin mold for these or just fabricate three more. I think it is easier simply to make the three.......

Also the overall painting is now complete after re-doing a few areas I was not happy with. When this paint is fully cured I'll mask off the area around the windshield, side window and rear window seals and spray them in semi-gloss black.
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Post by: No.1 on December 07, 2017, 06:10:44 AM
Cow catcher, never hear that :)
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Post by: modellius on December 07, 2017, 06:56:11 AM
I heard of kangoroo bars but cow catcher never before, glad to red that information, thank you mate ! Nice progress you did on Ingrid and the model as well, keep up the good work !
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 07, 2017, 12:09:38 PM
Yes, in my part of the U.S. we call them cow-catchers. Even the Australian truck bumpers sometimes get that name--I guess it's because we have a lot more cows than kangaroos!!!!
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 08, 2017, 02:21:11 AM
I've decided just to make four bumper guards. It would take longer to make a mold and cast them than to simply whittle out styrene ones. Here's a photo of the process, just for fun. I had to laminate three pieces of styrene strip for the correct width, then just glue 'em together and start grinding....
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Post by: No.1 on December 08, 2017, 05:07:39 AM
 :-clap :-clap :-clap
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Post by: modellius on December 08, 2017, 07:54:34 AM
Logical choose of name..... Nice progress mate
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 11, 2017, 12:38:42 AM
Today was masking day for all the window seals. This went easier than I thought it would--thank goodness for Tamiya tape!! Also, on the photo of the windshield frame, notice the tiny bump in the center of the roof just above the windshield--this was only seen on the very earliest Beetles and was the place where a cowl-mounted radio antenna upper mount was supposed to go. I duplicated this on the model with a drop of CA glue.
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 13, 2017, 01:03:05 AM
This evening I decided to assemble the rear bumper. New brackets were fabricated from styrene strip and the bumper guards attached. This one now slips into place just like it should.
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 14, 2017, 02:06:49 AM
I missed one detail on the rear bumper, the bracket that the engine crank was slid through. I couldn't sleep this morning so got up and fabricated the bracket. After work this evening I completed the front bumper and installed the windscreen and other glass. Revell was rather ingenious as they have you install the side and rear transparencies into the inner roof panel, then the inner panel is glued to the body.
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Post by: modellius on December 14, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
looks good,like the bumpers
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Post by: No.1 on December 14, 2017, 12:00:34 PM
From your build I will learn how to assembly and maintain real car :))
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 15, 2017, 12:08:25 AM
Actually the real car isn't much more complicated than the model!!! On a similar subject, I am a member of a VW enthusiast's forum and one of the fellows there has built a very nearly exact replica of a Kubelwagen based on a kit (name I don't remember right now) and Volkswagen sedan parts. He recently stated that he studied a real Kubel as part of his research, then went out and bought a Kubel kit (the big Tamiya one, I bet) so he would have reference handy!
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 18, 2017, 02:27:51 AM
With a relaxing evening the VW saw some more important progress. The final installation of the front and rear inner body parts took place, so now it has a proper trunk and engine compartment. Also the bumpers received a coat of grey and here you have it:
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Post by: modellius on December 19, 2017, 07:28:14 PM
good !
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 20, 2017, 12:06:57 PM
Thank you!
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 28, 2017, 02:36:18 AM
Finally I've fixed the body and floorpan together for the final time. Also a start has been made on adding the interior details such as rear seat and other items.

Having gotten the Beetle this far, I opened the box of the donor Kubelwagen to get out a couple of parts and decided to make a start on replacing what I'd robbed to build the Bug. Knowing what one of these kits costs today versus what I spent twenty years ago I've decided to use the Revell parts to complete the Kubel. In my former model car contest world the Kubel will be classified as a "curbside" model with no opening engine compartment. That's the only way I can use the rather inaccurate Revell engine. My plan is for the Kubel to represent the one my father drove in North Africa after Operation Torch.
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Post by: No.1 on December 28, 2017, 06:34:50 AM
Idea- when we start build some airplane kit, to get sample of original plane too, it is obviously useful :))
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 28, 2017, 02:46:08 PM
I actually have a great problem here--I have two 1/16 Kubel kits. The one I just started on in the last post is the Afrika Korps version with sand tires and I also have a "standard" kit that is untouched. So, my plan is to build this Tropical version (which is what dad drove in Africa) as a display only, and eventually I'll finish the other kit with opening engine lid etc.
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Post by: No.1 on December 28, 2017, 03:18:44 PM
Good idea, wish you to make it :))
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 28, 2017, 09:36:36 PM
I do have one problem with "dad's Kubel", he never saw fit to take a photo of it. He just mentioned they painted stars on it to make sure he didn't become a friendly fire casualty and that he also revived a second VW for his lieutenant. I'm collecting up pictures of various North African Kubels in U.S. custody and will simply have to build one of these, more in the spirit of what my dad had than his actual machine. He also mentioned that he was not able to take the car with him when 1st Armored moved across the Med to the Italian campaign so he and his lieutenant simply parked them and threw a grenade in each when they left Africa.
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Post by: Second Air Force on December 29, 2017, 04:11:42 PM
The Tamiya Kubel kits are possibly the best-engineered models I've built yet, on a par with some of Eduard's best kits and the Zvezda Bf109s I've experienced. The body panels almost do not need glue! This morning I've set the major parts together to test fit them and they are nearly perfect! Then I built the front axle assembly, and it goes together just about exactly like the 1/1 version. Very impressive design on the kit and it was done many years ago.
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Post by: No.1 on December 29, 2017, 05:08:07 PM
Trully good!!!
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Post by: No.1 on December 31, 2017, 04:25:32 PM
Forget to ask- do you have cat to test it when complete?
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 01, 2018, 12:46:53 AM
Ha! That is a great photo!!!!! I don't have a cat of my own to test it with, but our neighbor cat "Lucky" could walk over for the job. Just yesterday I went into the shed and poor Lucky was scared out of his wits when I opened the door.....I think he was hunting and I just happened to come in at the wrong time.

Here is a little progress on the Kubel. First photo shows one of the few things Tamiya missed on this kit, a small bulkhead that I built from Evergreen sheet. The opening under it is made to fit a Jerrycan on the real car. The next ones are of test fitting and assembly of a few parts.
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 01, 2018, 04:02:50 AM
My final modeling production of 2017 is some small-parts installation on the sedan. First the Notek light was added to the fender and the headlight assemblies with blackout covers were placed. Then the tire pump, jack and starting crank were added in the trunk. The last effort was to dig in the spares boxes for an appropriate first aid kit and the basic toolkit and a jerrycan were placed on the storage shelf next to the rear seat. Then a trial fitting of the fabric rollback top cover that was a feature of some of these KdF sedans.
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Post by: No.1 on January 01, 2018, 06:42:37 AM
Good for last year!!!
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 01, 2018, 02:36:52 PM
Perhaps more will be done today--I just started drinking my first cup of coffee of the new year and it is -17C outside!!!!!!
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Post by: modellius on January 02, 2018, 12:01:37 PM
excellent progress I really enjoy this
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 02, 2018, 01:55:41 PM
Thanks, mate! I confess I probably could have completed the Beetle in 2017 but the Kubel distracted me.

I'm rather frustrated actually--I was wanting to work on our real Beetle the last few days but it is far too cold in the shop. I could place a small electric heater in there but I'm using acetone to strip the old white paint off Ingrid and I would probably gas myself in the enclosed space.....! (Incidentally, it's also too cold to paint, but I did some small parts anyway.)
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 02, 2018, 09:21:58 PM
This morning with coffee I flipped the sedan over and added headlight and taillight wire conduits and the heater supply tubes and a few other small details. Once it warms up a little I need to add some dirt and mud residue to the inside of the fenders. I'm still not sure what to do with this when finished, if I should add a lot of dirt to the exterior or leave it more-or-less clean. My photo of this actual car shows it shortly after being built and it is still mostly clean. I think it was actually one of the first Typ 82E cars built for the Wehrmacht and was likely a Versuchs machine.
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Post by: No.1 on January 02, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
Make it clean is also fine ;)
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 03, 2018, 02:42:41 AM
Jumping back and forth again--time to fit the top to the tropical Kubel. It's fortunate that I purchased two Kubel kits back in the day. The Afrika Korps version has only the folded down top assembly but the European version provides both up and down tops. On this Tunisian one I decided to put the closed top on. Dad mentioned that his Kubel was much nicer than a Jeep when it rained in Tunisia since the top fit better and there were proper side windows.
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 06, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Time for the real fun to start, final assembly! Still quite a lot to get done, but it is starting to look like a Volkswagen.
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Post by: No.1 on January 06, 2018, 07:08:00 PM
Assembly look like in repair work shop, somehow look similar :))
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Post by: modellius on January 06, 2018, 07:21:11 PM
in lack of better word, perfect !
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 07, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
Thanks, mates! So much fun when all the small bits start coming together.

Final fitting of wheels and tires went quite smoothly. Then it was on to one of the tasks I have been concerned about, fitting the doors. Each door comes with hinges quite similar to a real Volkswagen that must be carefully filed smooth of flash from molding. Then each hinge must be aligned with the door and door frame so the door will open and close properly. Careful fitting has paid off on the right one, it went on nicely and works quite well!
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Post by: No.1 on January 07, 2018, 03:21:45 PM
Beautiful :)) :-ok
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Post by: modellius on January 07, 2018, 05:27:35 PM
this is getting better and better every time, well done my friend !
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 07, 2018, 07:23:49 PM
Thank you, friends!! Back home from shopping, it's time to get coffee brewing and then to attack the other door.
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 07, 2018, 10:50:26 PM
All doors today......first the left door was installed without drama on the Kafer. Then I started building up all four doors for the Tunisia Kubel. Tamiya did such a nice job on these inside and out. I found only one issue, and that is to spend some time fitting each door to the center hinge post. I'm planning on having at least three doors closed, perhaps all four, and the doors fit a little too tightly when closed. All it takes is a little trimming and filing around the hinge area and they fall into place.
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Post by: No.1 on January 07, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
More cars then Germans had :))
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Post by: modellius on January 08, 2018, 12:23:47 PM
both looks just fine, well done !
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 10, 2018, 01:24:06 AM
After the doors on the Kafer were finally adjusted a few photos of closed and opened car. Still have some finishing touches before everything is finished, running boards and some other items.

Then it was time to move on to some scratchbuilding on the Kubel. A variety of holders for gas and water cans were fabricated for these cars. I picked two of them and used some Evergreen to fabricate a couple. The simpler one will be used on this build and the heavy-duty one will go into the other kit for later construction.
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Post by: modellius on January 10, 2018, 03:21:55 PM
excellent !
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Post by: Second Air Force on January 16, 2018, 01:12:28 AM
The sedan is virtually finished, so more time to spend on the Kubel. All the primary parts are now in their desert tan color and assembly can start when the paint dries.
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Post by: No.1 on January 16, 2018, 04:05:13 AM
Beautiful!
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Post by: modellius on January 16, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
excellent !