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Title: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 26, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
I have been lucky to have 3 and half hours to see as much as I was able (and it was just the main part - it is large collection). Here are my photos - first Avia S-199 Mezek (hebr. Sakin, which means knife).  :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 26, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
more of Sakin...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 26, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
and more...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 26, 2010, 11:31:06 PM
and this is all of this old bird  :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 26, 2010, 11:59:55 PM
Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX (hebr. Yorek)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 12:17:09 AM
One more Spit, this one is in flying condition :-ok ; and me stupid forgot to photo information board :-wall, so I don't now the type  :-red , sorry for this...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 27, 2010, 08:41:11 AM
Excellent images and I like blue foil over the cockpit, to protect them from sun.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Profa on November 27, 2010, 08:59:30 AM
Beautiful pics, Papa!
For the black Spit, it is LF9E and I've found it on airliners.net:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel---Air/Supermarine-361-Spitfire/0895324/L/&sid=2f4eb59b821a83f41e0a4f200aff2994
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 27, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Beautiful pics, Papa!
For the black Spit, it is LF9E and I've found it on airliners.net:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel---Air/Supermarine-361-Spitfire/0895324/L/&sid=2f4eb59b821a83f41e0a4f200aff2994

For the Black Spit....

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/borbene-letelice-combat-warplanes/vist-to-iaf-museum-at-hatzerim-beer-sheba-izrael-nov-21-2010/msg16893/#msg16893
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Sall on November 27, 2010, 11:27:24 AM
Beautiful!
This black Spit is wonderful! :-love :-love :-love
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: mfg495 on November 27, 2010, 12:10:22 PM
excellent set of images  :-ok :-ok many thanks for posting  :-salut
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 03:13:15 PM
On your service my friends. :-wave and thanks for information and links for that black spit :-ok . Now, here is a North American P-51D Mustang (hebr. Bardales), with white 38 number on it.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Another Mustang ( or Bardales) but again I didn't took information (is it also P-51D, or some other version :-think)... I was in hurry to take as much photos, and so...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 03:30:23 PM
Now let me present IAI Tzukit (on the first photo is explaind that it is IAI modernization of Fouga Magister CM-170). This is number 630, and has opened cockpits which one can enter, so I enjoyed rear cockpit first  :))
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
more of rear cockpit and moving to front one...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
first 2 photos: front cockpit look from rear cockpit, the rest is front cockpit...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
more front cockpit, and then very quick walk around...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 27, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
little more and it is all about this particular airplane :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 27, 2010, 08:58:33 PM
:-clap :-clap Wonderful :-ok
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: samuraj77 on November 27, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Pardon me lads, but I just have to note that Black Spitfire was as far as I know actually a personal machine flown by famous Israeli pilot Ezer Weizman Weizman was commander of the Israeli Air Force and Minister of Defense and seventh President of Israel.
 He received his training in the British Army in which he enlisted in 1942 in order to fight the Nazis. He served as a truck driver in the Western Desert campaigns in Egypt and Libya. In 1943, he joined the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and attended aviation school in Rhodesia. He served with the RAF in India in early 1944. Weizman ended his service in the RAF as a sergeant pilot.
A friend of mine was his neighbor, and had an opportunity to speak with him personally. He also received autographed sample of Weizman book from the author.
   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezer_Weizman

Letipapa mate, thanks for posting these photos...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 12:54:57 AM
Thanks mates :-flo
Let me now present two more of this aircraft, in the same color scheme. First is number 677  (photos 1-12) that is placed next to previous 630. It also has open cockpits free to board; and the second is number 674 (last 4 photos) located more away, under the right wing of the fantastic Catalina (about it later  :)) ), with closed cockpits. :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 01:32:45 AM
This is Fouga Magister CM-170, old blue and white color scheme, number 212...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Second Air Force on November 28, 2010, 01:35:42 AM
Wonderful photos, and thanks for sharing them!

Scott
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 01:42:21 AM
With whom to share if not with such a great company that all of you here are. :-flo :-salut
More of this aircraft and some photos of photos of Fougas (exhibited in hangar with airplanes that are in flying condition - black spit and other), on which we can see other camouflage.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 02:00:39 PM
more of this photos...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 02:08:18 PM
And now basic training aircraft Piper Pa-18-150 Super Cub, number 099:
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 28, 2010, 02:09:39 PM
Ha ha ha- Piper everywhere :-ok
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
Let mi make a little change to helicopters. This Hughes 500MD TOW Defender was standing near the Piper.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 04:33:51 PM
Two more airplanes in flying condition: first Boeing Stearman PT-13 17 Kaydet, number 31 (photos 1-10), then North American T-6 Texan Harvard, number 001 (photos 11-16), and last photo is also one other Texan in a distant hangar which I zoomed. :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 04:43:37 PM
Ooops :-red I forgot to put Hughes 500MD cockpit photos; now here they are :)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 28, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
Bravo for Hughes 500MD images!!!
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
Eh, If I had more time, it could be total scanning, but better anything than nothing (although, now I have a friend that is living there, and he sad: "come and stay for a month", so it is only the matter of time and money... I'll see).

Now one airplane I adore: Consolidated Vultee PBY-5A Catalina. I saw it first time live and I was surprised how big in fact it is. Great airplane! :-love
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 05:16:39 PM
more Catalina...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 05:32:23 PM
Under the left wing of Catalina there were 2 helicopters situated. I am not an expert but I believe these are Bell helis; Cobra and Hui. Am I correct? Please help :)) :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 06:01:29 PM
SA-321K Super Frelon (hebr. Tzir'a), number 020:
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Sall on November 28, 2010, 06:10:19 PM
What to say? :-clap :-clap :-clap
I think this is not all! I think you have much more pics for us! :-wise
I'm happy if i'm right... :-jump :-jump
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 28, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
I took ruffly 1200 photos! :-razz

Now here is one more SA-321K Super Frelon, N'125 (hebr. Tzir'a), number 010. This particular helicopter has special history. In this machine Egyptian president Anwar El Sadat was transported to historic visit to Israel in 1977. Inside the aircraft there is exhibition of photos of this event, as other aviation history photos. Near the helicopter, outside, the car Sadat was driven in, is exhibited (last photo).
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 11:22:40 AM
Let's go back to airplanes - McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom (hebr. Kurnas), Block 60, with number 50 (some anniversary ?) on the lower part of the fin. Airplane is prepared with some panels transparent, so the visitors could see details. I stopped here short.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 11:33:20 AM
Another F-4E Phantom (Kurnas), number 297, with very strange, I would say weight, on the nose pole. :-eek It was airplane for some experiments and test probably, but what kind :-think :-think :-think Again I was lost in my mind and didn't took the photo of the table standing in front, what an idiot am I :-wall :-wall :-wall :-wall :-wall :-wall
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 11:40:23 AM
One very strange looking Aero Comander/Jet Comander 1121/ IAI Westwind 1123:
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 29, 2010, 03:01:01 PM
Hey man- this is great, I did not know for this :)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 04:22:39 PM
And this is crazy even more : Grumman Avenger (don't know the version) that was used like a  crop duster :-eek :-eek :-eek :-smey :-smey :-smey funny but it must had been useful - it's a pretty fat fella, able to care a big reservoir inside, probably :)) What a great machine :-love :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 04:31:45 PM
And this airplane fascinated me - I thought it is much smaller; mmmmmh, I like it :-love, Grumman E-2C Hawkeye (hebr. Daya), number 944...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 29, 2010, 04:41:10 PM
Bingo...  :-cool
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 04:51:32 PM
What, you a doing profiles of this :-think :-think :-think, more...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 29, 2010, 04:56:06 PM
Maybe good options for walkaround for you, in printed way... will see ;)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 04:56:25 PM
and this too :-wave ...

Oh :-eek, you know, if I only could go behind that rope they put and photo all details, but girls and boys (in fact uniformed soldiers) who worked there, did not permit that at any case; no chance. :-/ It could be much more photos, but this is all right too. :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 29, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
If I said this is perfect- this is perfect!
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 05:14:33 PM
Thank you ooohh great master :-obey :-obey :-obey :-green It is my pleasure :-flo

After Hawkeye I continued with some more helicopters: Sikorsky CH-53 (hebr. Yas'ur), number 472 (photos 1 & 2); then Sikorsky S-55, number 03 (photos 3-7), and on last photo a bird (is it Sikorsky or some British heli, I do not know) with number 07, which I did just that one shot (why? - I don't know :-/)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 05:31:15 PM
Now lets go on Gloster Meteors.
First, Gloster Meteor T-7 (hebr. Ra'am which means Thunder),whole aluminium number 15, with only black&white checkerboard type rings on the intakes of engines (photo 1), then another almost identical T-7 Ra'am, number 18 (photos 2-6), and then 9 photos of Gloster Meteor T-7/8 (hebr. 'Seven and a Half'), number white 21. :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 11:27:12 PM
Gloster Meteor F-8, number white 06...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 29, 2010, 11:44:09 PM
Gloster Meteor NF.13 4X-FNB (ex-WM334), number 51 (photos 1-9), and Gloster  Meteor NF.13 4X-FNE (ex-WM320), number 157 (photos 10-14):-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 12:59:38 AM
phot.1: De Havilland D.H. 89 Dragon Rapide VQ-PAR
phot.2 & 3: Republic RC-3 Seabee (ex US civil), T.61
phot.3 & 4: Taylorcraft Cub,VQ-PAH (probably replica :-think)
phot.5-7: wreck of Noorduyn UC-64 Norseman
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
I think no one could stay not impressed looking this giant: Boeing B-377M Stratocruiser, number 039 'Masada'; first outside...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 07:58:38 PM
more outside...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 08:12:31 PM
inside is incredible, wide, oh how I would like to fly this bird...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 30, 2010, 08:14:01 PM
They let you in?
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 08:38:24 PM
It is opened and free entrance all the time - I was delighted, and I was lucky that no one else was coming in so I spent good amount of time sitting there. If I had not to go photographing the rest, I could sit there for hour. :)
more inside...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
Two more photos of cockpit, and then look to the rear from cockpit entrance - there is small exhibition inside(photo 3). There are two interesting examples of aerial photo cameras (photos 4-6, our dear mfg459 and Jicehem could maybe tell as more about them :-think). The rest are inside details, and other interesting exhibits.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on November 30, 2010, 09:22:46 PM
Silver Mosquito with red rudder?
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on November 30, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
It is a big model exhibited behind the glass, in the rear, tail part, of Stratocruiser. I don't know anything about that plain :-think - there where no any info, and even it was not lightened - it was in the dark behind a glass. :-think :-think :-think
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 02, 2010, 01:00:14 AM
Now something great: De Havilland DH-100 Vampire,LI58 Lebanese markings. The airplane is incredibly low :-eek
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 02, 2010, 01:18:44 AM
De Havilland DH-100 Vampire, T-55, Egyptian markings...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 02, 2010, 02:02:04 AM
De Havilland Venom, Iraqi markings...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Profa on December 02, 2010, 07:27:45 AM
This really should be printed, masterpiece of photo collection! :-clap
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 02, 2010, 08:17:41 AM
Wonderful material :-clap
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 02, 2010, 02:01:18 PM
Thanks guys :-flo

Now Hawker-Siddeley Hunter (photos 1-11;does not tell which variant). Are this Jordanian markings - but strange, there is white Jewish star aded :-think :-think :-think

and then MiG-15 UTI, Egyptian markings
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:24:01 AM
MiG-17 Fresco, Syrian, number 1033 (phot.1-8), and the rest is  MiG-21F, number 007...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:32:49 AM
Two more photos of MiG-21F, number 007, and the rest is Syrian MiG-23 M2D, number  2781
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:37:12 AM
Dassault Ouragan, number 80...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:43:03 AM
Dassault Ouragan, number 49 (looks like it has a wolf teeth :-think)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:49:25 AM
Dassault Mystere IVA, number white 60...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 12:55:12 AM
Dassault Mystere IVA, number white 09...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 01:01:03 AM
Dassault Super Mystere B.2, number white 096...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 01:12:57 AM
And now Vautours:
photo's 1-3: Sud Aviation SO-4050 Vautour IIA, number white 09
photo's 4-10: Sud Aviation SO-4050 Vautour IIBR, number 33 (very unusual numbers, black segmented with yellow border line)
photo's 11-15: Sud AviationSO-4050 Vautour IIN, number white 70, tandem configuration night fighter.
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Sall on December 04, 2010, 03:21:50 PM
I don't know what to say!? This is splendid.
 :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap :-clap
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 04, 2010, 03:28:15 PM
Check out if you have time what kind of material has Letipapa post on this forum!!
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 04, 2010, 11:53:34 PM
Now,some reconnaissance Phantoms:
photo's 1-8: McDonnell Douglas  F-4E Phantom II (with a G-139 Camera Pod), number 323
photo's 9-11: McDonnell Douglas RF-4E, (Reconnaissance Phantom), number 498 (I suppose, :-think )
photo's 12-15: McDonnell Douglas RF-4E, (Reconnaissance Phantom), number 485.

Interestingly, I couldn't find this last two airplanes in a museum airplanes list :-think
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 01:20:06 AM
1-8: Dassault Mirage IIICJ (hebr. Shahak),number 158
9-15: Dassault Mirage IIICJ (hebr. Shahak),number 159
16-20: Dassault Mirage IIIBJ (hebr. Shahak or Kfir TC), number 988
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Sall on December 05, 2010, 01:42:25 AM
Oooooohohohoohhoooo...
Mirage IIIC :-love
Beautiful plane... I love this green camouflage! :-love
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 05, 2010, 01:44:58 AM
This blue two seater is really attractive :-ok
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 03:34:29 AM
phpto's 1-3: IAI F-4-2000 Super Phantom, number 229 (4X-JPA)
phto's 4-8: IAI F-4-2000 Super Phantom, number 614
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 04:08:41 AM
Nesher and Kfirs
photo's 1-5: IAI Nesher, number 501
photo's 6 & 7: IAI Kfir, number 874
photo's 8 & 9: IAI Kfir, number 451
phopto's 10-14: IAI Kfir TC-2, number 310
phot'os 15-17: IAI Kfir F-21A, number 03
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 01:59:41 PM
Two more Kfirs:
1-5: IAI Kfir C-1,number 712
6-10: IAI Kfir C-7,number 529 ; this aircraft is positioned immediately after entrance, with some AA ( :-think) rocket exhibited near it.
 :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 02:20:45 PM
IAI Lavi, number B-2
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 02:25:29 PM
more of Lavi...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 05, 2010, 02:35:46 PM
Lavi is there?? Great subject mate :-clap
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 05, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
Thank you :-flo Now I must go out, and will continue tonight :-wave

I came back - here is McDonnell Douglass F-15A Eagle (hebr. Baz), number 695, photo's 1-8

and McDonnell Douglass A-4F Skyhawk (hebr. Ayit F), number 611;

Very strange looking bomb, or reservoir, or what     with number 103 on it, and look ad that propeller and a thing on the tail (looks like kind of net   , could this be a device for tanking another airplane     - totally unusual for me!)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 06, 2010, 02:20:05 AM
Next: McDonnell Douglass A-4H Skyhawk (hebr. Ayit H),number 272
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 06, 2010, 02:54:49 AM
Lovely machine ;)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
Didn't left much but still there are some photos of photos - some are of poor quality, but maybe they are interesting in some way. I didn't have time to note or remember what are they about, but I think it is mostly a flying school - some historical photos, pilots, groups, airplanes, then fugas again, parades, lashing (did I say good :-think) ritual, then the badges of different services (or squadrons, or wings - I really do not know)... photo's are posted in order as they were took. :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 10, 2010, 09:27:38 PM
This historic subjects are great!
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 09:49:30 PM
further...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 10:04:43 PM
and further...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 10:14:08 PM
and this, for now :-wave
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 10, 2010, 10:18:25 PM
Very good update mate :-clap
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
Thank you man :-flo
There is jet another 35 photo's of photo's (mainly much older historical period), but now let me finish with helicopters :) Here are two Aluettes...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 10:47:42 PM
and the last: SA-341L Gazelle:
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 10:58:23 PM
Now here is the moment when I was almost exhausted, and my friends in nearby Beer Sheba called that they are coming to pick me up. So I took these scenes - a lot of UAVs, more Helis and one Dakota, but it is all just together... well; I was very sad, but in fact there are good chances that I could be there again for much longer time ;)

(p.s. my posting is not finished jet :) )
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 10, 2010, 11:31:54 PM
Also I made 2 panoramas: first from the hangar with airworthy machines (phot.1: panorama, phot.2-6:separated photo's) and another from the entrance in to the Stratocruiser (phot.7-11);

and two specific shots with tails motive (phot.12: kfirs tails; phot.13: kfirs and phantoms tails)...
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on December 10, 2010, 11:33:05 PM
Camouflaged helicopter look cute ;)
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Second Air Force on December 11, 2010, 04:52:59 AM
Great coverage!

Notice the Kfir in 12 and 13 with "Marines" on the aft fuselage and the tiny red star on the tail? I wonder if this is one of the Kfirs that was stationed in the U.S. back in the late eighties--they were named F-21 in the States. We lived in Yuma, Arizona during part of the time they were stationed at MCAS Yuma for dissimilar combat training. The Israeli crews had individual open-sided sheds to give them shade in their parking areas.

Scott
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Second Air Force on December 11, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
I discovered a drawing of a Marine Corps F-21 and it confirmed that the one in Letipapa's picture served at MCAS Yuma. I find it pretty neat that I could travel to Israel to see an airplane that used to fly over my head in Arizona!! :-cool Now if I just had some idea of where the pictures went that I took when I lived in Yuma. :-wall

As an aside to my Yuma story, the U.S. government leased the Kfirs from the Israelis complete with crews as I recall. Sadly a ground crew member (not certain if he was an Israeli or American) lost his life in the winter of '88/'89 when the ejection seat fired in the F-21 he was working on. It was very somber news and is one of those things that one remembers. The flight line can be a dangerous occupation.
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Letipapa on December 11, 2010, 11:29:57 PM
Wonderfull and interesting info Scott, thanks. :-flo
That accident with ejection is terrible, but things happen. :(

p.s: this particular airplane is also on previous page, here is link so you don't lose time (last two photo's, it is: IAI Kfir F-21A, number 03)

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/borbene-letelice-combat-warplanes/vist-to-iaf-museum-at-hatzerim-beer-sheba-izrael-nov-21-2010/msg17175/#msg17175
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Second Air Force on December 12, 2010, 02:11:05 AM
Thanks for the link! I can't believe I missed the earlier photos. :-red

Scott
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: zetman on June 30, 2011, 12:18:31 AM
Hallo from Greece! :-wave
I was very pleased to see such a wanderfull collection and so many walkarounds. :-ok
I would like to inform that many IAF walkarounds can be found in Primeportal.net posted by Isaac Gershman (uploaded by Don Busak.)
Below is the tzukit(IAF converted fouga magister) walkaround:
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/isaac_gershman/tzukit/
 :-salut
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Sall on June 30, 2011, 12:22:45 AM
Great walkaround mate! Thanks for share! :-flo
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: No.1 on June 30, 2011, 12:24:32 AM
Large and crisp images, thank you for link :-ok
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: zetman on June 30, 2011, 12:44:47 AM
Don't mention it.Glad you liked it.
One plane that is missing from this wonderfull topic I think,is the republic RC.3 seabee which I have also in model in 1/48 from Glencoe models.
Does anyone have any photos of that at Hatzerim museum?
Title: Re: Vist to IAF Museum at Hatzerim, Beer Sheba, Izrael, Nov.21.2010
Post by: Paul Andrews on June 30, 2011, 08:14:28 PM
Great photos...