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Title: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 06, 2008, 03:45:52 PM
I thought it might be useful to open such a thread if someone of our members has a photo in their collection and does not know which plane is on it.
I can say for myself it happens quite often for me  :-red

Today i had this one in the mailbox. I have hoped it could be a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter but im not very sure about it. Also i think its after war. The observer and pilot have some headsets on and the observer has something like an early radio or transmission device if i see it right  :-cool

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on February 06, 2008, 04:56:42 PM
Maybe some Swedish construction?
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 16, 2008, 05:09:56 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/2269239238_bf72766c4d_o.jpg)

Any idea? my guess was Avro504 type.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Bruno on February 16, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
I thought it might be useful to open such a thread if someone of our members has a photo in their collection and does not know which plane is on it.
I can say for myself it happens quite often for me  :-red

Today i had this one in the mailbox. I have hoped it could be a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter but im not very sure about it. Also i think its after war. The observer and pilot have some headsets on and the observer has something like an early radio or transmission device if i see it right  :-cool

No problem kilian -sorry Wingman81 :-/, this plane is without error a sopwith
1/2 strutter
I am searching for the second one-Probably a training bi-place sopwith
-to be confirmed-
Cordialement
Bruno



Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Bruno on February 16, 2008, 07:11:35 PM
The second one is an Avro 504 K

http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/les_collections/phototheque/dig_image.cfm?Lang=f&id=11076

Bruno
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 16, 2008, 09:09:14 PM
Thanks Bruno!!  :-cool Thats a good start for the serial # project. Ill post the information i have in the project thread on aerodrome.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 22, 2008, 11:49:36 PM
Can someone tell me if this is a Nieuport 10? The plans i found online didnt help me that much.  :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Bruno on February 25, 2008, 09:21:45 PM
Hello kilian

This plane is not a Nieuport 10 but a Nieuport 12
You can recognize because of transparent covering on upper wing
The engine was a 110 hp clerget 9 Z-It was a two-seater observer plane with a Lewis machine gun fore the observer/gunner
Some times an other was mounted to the too of upper wing(dont think that is the case here,)-It is a French unit (roundels with sky blue in middle)
The nieuport 12bis  was same as N12 butwas fitted with a 130 hp clerget and  was recognizable because of its circular cowling

Cordialement
Bruno
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 25, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
Hi Bruno.

:-wise  Thats very interesting. I had asked Kees in your absence and he told me it is a Nie10 because of the rectengular hole where the observer could fire above the propeller circle from front seat. The pale edge you see below the motor is a cut damage in the original photo. For his defense i must say he had a much smaller version of the photo to see.  :-green So you think from the motor and upper wing we can rule out a Nie10?
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Bruno on February 25, 2008, 11:12:24 PM

Very sorry Kilian-I think that Kees , our master in theaerodrome...
is right.
The hole of the Nieuport 12 is larger and recovered with a transparent panel-and the wing struts are inclined
I was mistaken by the fact we cnnot seen the gun through the hole
Sorry kilian

Bruno
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 25, 2008, 11:26:18 PM
Ok no worries here mate, my problem was i couldnt find a good Nie12 picture where i could see the differences to the Nie10 or better i found some but mostly from the wrong angles  :-think

Gruß
Kilian
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Bruno on February 26, 2008, 12:09:00 AM
 Here is a good site for nieuport
Nieuport 12 and 10 could been seen in front face

http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/les_nieuports_de_la_guerre.pdf
A+
Bruno
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 26, 2008, 12:14:31 AM
Merci beaucoup  :-ok :-obey
Title: Unkown aircraft
Post by: mfg495 on February 26, 2008, 08:28:01 PM
Well is the next bit of research for my site, trying to find out what these two aircraft are.
They, as you can see are very large enlargements from a reconnaissance print take in 1944 flown by the USAAF 7th Photo group, location is unknown, so that makes the task even harder. Well it gives me something to do in the evenings  :))

Title: Re: Unkown aircraft
Post by: No.1 on February 26, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
Look like the Mistel with Me262 on top.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 26, 2008, 09:20:38 PM
Topic moved  :-eek

I think what you are looking at is one aircraft but with a very strong shadow, I think it could be a Me 262, but I'm not sure  :-roll
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 26, 2008, 11:23:23 PM
Very hard to tell with the bad resolution. The right looks to me as 2 planes or objects. But i dont think its a He162 Mistel because this had V-wings foward bent or normal wings. This one has V-wings backwards. Maybe another plane type carriers it?

http://www.luftwaffen-projekte.de/lwp/jaeger/archiv/me262_archiv.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/Bilderseiten/Me262-R.htm
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14644

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 27, 2008, 08:51:32 AM
Thanks for your comments Wingman81, I think the left-hand one could be an Me 262 and the other one maybe an He 111 or even an Me 410?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/matzos/2-1.jpg)

The white box is the area of the enlargement.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/matzos/1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on February 27, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
Hello everybody. Well, I agree with mfg495 that it is one airplane, but my opinion is that it might be that it is probably some two propeller aircraft.
First I looked at buildings that are in the neighbourhood (fot.1 and 2) and I ruffly draw the sun rays direction (red arrows). If follow the sun rays than we conclude that it is one aircraft (pink line) and it's shadow. That aircraft have two engines, to me looks like almost I can see propellers (green arrows), and maybe it has (just may be) two vertical fins on the tail wing (blue arrows, but not likely). What is sure is that aircraft has a wing that has ends of wings higher than its roots (thus the shadow looks like swept wing, but it is not- it is shadow of the ordinary wing that has high wingtips and lower root of wing). I may be wrong, but this are my conclusions in a hurry.
Is there  such a plane in Luftwaffe? :-think
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 27, 2008, 05:08:47 PM
@Leti.

So you think the right one is more like a larger bomber 2x propeller type machine with two vertical fins that are higher than the main fuselage wings? Could also be possible.

Ill have a look in my books tonight and post a short llist with my suggestions ;o
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 27, 2008, 08:01:51 PM
Letipapa you should work in photographic intelligence! Great thinking.

An Me 110 could cover the two vertical fins idea and the other might be an Me 410  :-think

The research continues, thanks for all your comments on this.  :-ok
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 27, 2008, 09:45:30 PM
Possibilities:

-Ju 86 Variant -> ruled out for nose position
-He 219 "Uhu" -> ruled out for nightfighter
- Ar 240 -> only 15 produced and only 5 prototype of C type were produced
- Me 110 -> best fitting

I left out some trainers that would have also fitted.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on February 27, 2008, 10:03:01 PM
@Leti.

...with two vertical fins that are higher than the main fuselage wings...
Two vertical fins - it is just a possibility - it looks like on right airplain, and i didn't think that this vertical fins are higher than wings,. but that wings itself a lower near fuselage than at the ends (tips). So It is surely an aircraft which when you look from front side has  wings in slight and shallow "v"form. From the front: fuselage and wing roots one level, wingtips (ends) higher level.
And both aircrafts are two engined, maybe the same type. I also think 90% Me 110.
@mfg495  thank You mate. I just used little knowledge of geometry.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 27, 2008, 11:47:38 PM
It would be easier if we could determine the length of the plane. Do you recce guys have means to determine it from your photos even from far distances?  :))
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on February 28, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
Well, there is a lot of roads on big photo. Roads in Germany probably had some standards in that time. We should find how much were roads wide, and than compare it with airplain, then proportionally calculate. If I have photo in greater resolution I could find it. Only need to now how much streets were wide. :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 28, 2008, 11:54:32 AM
I have just been told that the airfield is Berlin-Gatow



Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 28, 2008, 04:45:41 PM
I have just been told that the airfield is Berlin-Gatow

That doenst makes it easier  :-/. In Gatow was the Luftkriegsschule 2 and Luftkriegsakademie of the Luftwaffe in WWII, which were the most important training facilities for pilots. So it is is likely that there were also many trainer aircrafts around. After the war it was a british operated airfield that took part in the air supply of Berlin. Today there is the Luftwaffenmuseum of the Bundeswehr on this airfield.


Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 28, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
Today there is the Luftwaffenmuseum of the Bundeswehr on this airfield.

See my post

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=626.0
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on February 28, 2008, 10:18:50 PM
I wish to say thank you to all members for their comments on my original post.
I think it shows that it is better to ask the many than to go it on your own.

I did post the same images and question on a specialist Luftwaffe site, some of you may be members, however, I did not get half as many replies and ideas as I did from this team.

Again, thank you for all your help, I may even post some more questions and images in the future.

I'm away on work form tomorrow and the whole of the weekend with no internet access  :-/ So I will have to play catch up on all the posts on my return on Monday.  :-paper

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on February 28, 2008, 10:57:47 PM
mfg495 , maybe You will not read this, but OK -You will read it on Monday. I've just looked photo's once more time, and I noticed that there is a vivid distance between propellers and cabin (fit.1,white lines, red arrows and "d"). The propellers are more out, and cabin is back. If we consider Me 110, than it is not the case, quite opposite (fot.2.) But Me 210 fits perfectly fot.3). Now I put contours of Me 210 (scaled proportionally, fot.4) over airplanes on photo's. It is hard to see strict edges of airplane, so it doesn't fit perfect, especially on the right plane, but it can also be because of angle of photo (????).
Also there is one symptomatic light spot on the rear part of fuselage (close to tail, red arrow, fot.4) on the right aircraft. What that could be? :-think

That's all, I am so curios to hear what will specialist for Luftwaffe say. :-think
 :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 29, 2008, 02:16:37 AM
Leti you are absolutely right i must have mixed the two types up last night  ;) But i guess its more likely to be a Me 410 then. The Me 210 had stability problems and was replaced by the Me410 by Novemer 1943. Since there were still 370 Me210 in the construction phase these were modifyied by a longer fuselage into Me410 to avoid high production cost.

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on February 29, 2008, 09:21:30 AM
Hop. hop. hop! That's it! :)

"Since there were still 370 Me210 in the construction phase these were modified by a longer fuselage into Me410 to avoid high production cost"

I think we got it. :) When I was overlaying a contour of Me 210 on a photo, I noticed it was not perfect -like it was short a little bit (especially on right airplain, the left one could still be Me 210). With this information about elongated fuselage, it could really be Me 410
(for which I found some drawings but there was a text that it is a project and , as I was rushing, I thought that this airplain never was build - I tell once again, I'm not an expert - I allways loved aviation, but since last 2 years I am more interested in it).
Good photo, and good information Wigman :-ok :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on April 15, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Now, this shows how little I know about airplanes.
I bought this photo recently, and I do not know which airplane is that in a background. Obviously Goring was flying it - or not???? :-think
Is that kind of sport airplane or military???? :-think
Shame on me, but that's how things are. This will be good lesson for me I hope I will have from my friends. :) :-wave

P.S: yes, there is also the back of the picture - the 2nd photo.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on April 15, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
Look like Klemm 35.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: mfg495 on April 20, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
Klemm Kl 35

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on April 28, 2008, 07:27:01 PM
Thanks chief, thanks mfg459 : :-tri-salut :-obey :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on May 12, 2008, 11:40:29 AM
Any ideas what this russian plane is ? This has interesting camouflage. I lost auction at 25 Euro  :-wall
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on May 12, 2008, 12:04:34 PM
Soviet bomber SB-2 Katyusha. Overall grey or maybe natural metal with green spot over it. This suggest early stage of war against USSR.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on May 12, 2008, 05:46:28 PM
Soviet bomber SB-2 Katyusha. Overall grey or maybe natural metal with green spot over it. This suggest early stage of war against USSR.

Its good to have your knowledge for the russian planes  ;) I would have thought this is a single motor plane. But from the angle this is an illusion.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on May 12, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
...This suggest early stage of war against USSR.
And this soldiers, aren't they German soldiers - aircraft is captured? Yes, it is captured, abandoned probably.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on August 28, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
A bunch of unidentified aircrafts here :-green. This are photo's of photo's from a family encyclopedia from Kingdom of Yugoslavia. The text bellow does not tell what the types are. Translation is:

1. Big modern passanger aeroplane, monoplane (low wing), with pulled up gears during the flight, able to fly 8000km without landing.

2. Two engine passanger aeroplane, high wing.

3. Big passanger aeroplane with 8 engines 800 hp each.

4. Four engine three deck hydroplane in flight.

5. Aeroplane "amphibian" (Serbian word for amphibian) equipped with floats to land on watter and wheels to land on ground.

6. The newest type of helicopter with helices for vertical lift, which are contra rotating.

7.Low wing fighter with a gun shooting through the propeller.

8. Reconnaissance two seat airplane.

9. Seat for the machine-gun operator, that is lowered out and pulled in, due to the larger field of fire.

10. Antiaircraft gun.

11. Air ship (Zeppelin's).

Anybody have any idea what are the types, manufacturers...? :-think :-think
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: verner on August 29, 2008, 12:54:27 AM
#1 looks like a Vultee V-1

#7 De-510
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on August 29, 2008, 01:40:15 AM
Thanks mate. :-ok Here is the rest:
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on August 31, 2008, 08:58:35 PM
Airship is Graf Zeppelin
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 01, 2008, 12:15:49 AM
Yes, it writes Graf Zeppelin, but which one (model)? :-think
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on September 02, 2008, 01:41:35 AM
Probably LZ 127
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 02, 2008, 01:47:19 PM
Thanks, Kilian. :-wave
I wonder what is that on photo no.4 : four engine three deck hydroplane. Could this "F" on the tail be sign that it is French??? although I believe it could likely be German or USA (maybe). :-think :-think :-think
I wonder, I never saw this airplane before.
Hey fellows: SOS, help, hilfe, aiuto, upomoc...!!!! :))
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: verner on September 03, 2008, 12:01:19 AM
I believe it is a Latecoere 521
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: javier_planells on September 07, 2008, 03:03:53 AM
Hi mates,

After taking a look at the pictures, this is my list:

1- Vultee V1

2- Potez series 62/65

3 Tupolev ANT Maxim Gorki

4- Latecoere 521, I believe it was christened "Lt. de Vaiseau Paris" when impressed into the Aeronavale.

5- Not a clue  :-red

6- An early Sikorski or Kamov helicopter?

7- Dewoitine D-510, may be a prototype or preseries machine.

8- Fairey Fox, used by the belgian A.F. in W.W. II. I'd really like that MPM or some company like that to release a model kit of the Fox Family. They're some of the prettiest biplanes ever.

9- Not a clue, but I guess it may be the lower gun position on a TB-1?  Even it could be the one on the Junkers R-42? :-think

10- Not a single clue

11- It says Graf Zeppelin, could be?

Well, I guess that's all, mates.

Take care,

Javier
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 07, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
Ha, lot of information for me. Thanks Javier :-ok :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 19, 2008, 09:40:22 AM

Could any of you help with this images?

(http://www.postimage.org/gx1AOnQJ.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1AOnQJ) (http://www.postimage.org/aV1OQkA0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1OQkA0) (http://www.postimage.org/aV1OQpzi.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1OQpzi)
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1Q0ug0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Q0ug0) (http://www.postimage.org/Pq1Q0wL9.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Q0wL9) (http://www.postimage.org/aV1OQzxS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1OQzxS)
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1Q0EeA.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Q0EeA) (http://www.postimage.org/Pq1Q0GJJ.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Q0GJJ) (http://www.postimage.org/Pq1Q0VHA.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Q0VHA)
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1AOMN9.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1AOMN9)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on September 19, 2008, 11:01:54 PM
I have seen the plane on photo 1 before........i think its french but i cant tell.. Dont have my books here :(
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 19, 2008, 11:13:47 PM
Maybe G.3?
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 20, 2008, 02:05:25 AM
I think it is Caudron Biplane from 1912, like on this photo (compare it with Your first photo - it is same tipe of aircraft, if not the same). Caoudron G3 has lower wing shorter and thus some diagonal struts, which this one on photos doesn't.
Also it is the same aircraft on third photo (all first three photos are from yhe same place) :) :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 20, 2008, 03:06:25 AM
On the photo 5, could this two man be Gaston(up,working on engine) and Rene Caudron (down, handing him a tool)?
I blew up heads and added here another photo with them, also near the engine (Rene is on the left, Gaston right). I blew up their heads from this photo too. I believe this are same two people, so the aircraft could be one of early Caudrons, although the position of helix (behind an engine :-eek) is very strange, so, I am not sure.
 :) :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 20, 2008, 07:14:06 AM
Good point!
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 20, 2008, 09:45:21 PM
Another one :))

(http://www.postimage.org/aV1UPx40.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1UPx40)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on September 22, 2008, 10:21:37 PM
When I look at the "ski" between the wheels, a rounded fin and rudder, I would say it is Avro 504 K. :-think
 :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Jicehem on September 25, 2008, 11:46:44 PM
Hi,

I think it's a He 111 and its shadow resulting of a very low sun on the horizon. It should be interesting to know the time when this photo was shot. I think in the evening...

Cheers,
Jicehem
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 26, 2008, 09:37:30 AM
He111? Where?
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Jicehem on September 27, 2008, 10:57:40 AM
He111? Where?

Hi mate,

He 111 here : http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/forum/index.php?topic=760.0

Cheers,
Jicehem
Title: Re: Unkown aircraft
Post by: Jicehem on September 27, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
Well is the next bit of research for my site, trying to find out what these two aircraft are.
They, as you can see are very large enlargements from a reconnaissance print take in 1944 flown by the USAAF 7th Photo group, location is unknown, so that makes the task even harder. Well it gives me something to do in the evenings  :))




This is a He 111 with the shape of its shadow due to the sun very low on the horizon...

Jicehem
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on September 27, 2008, 11:15:41 AM
Ooopppsss- sorry, I have seen this later.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Letipapa on October 11, 2008, 09:40:17 PM
Hy everybody :-wave
Jicehem, are You sure? :-think To me it looks that engines on photo are longer than nose, and He-111 has a nose going more far in front of engines, that is in fact quite opposite.
What do You say? :-think :) :-wave
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Wingman81 on February 24, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
Is this a Fw44?
I think the struts are strange. Usually they would come from the middle of the fuselage and the strong struts going into the bottom wing would be only thinner cables.
Might that be a diffrent version I dont know? or a modification for flying in coastal areas with stronger winds?
I hope to get a larger scan of this soon.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: verner on February 25, 2009, 07:17:55 AM
I think it could be a Heinkel-72.
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on October 16, 2009, 11:31:34 PM
Any idea about this:

(http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/recenzije/Arhiva/img358.jpg)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: Profa on October 18, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
hmmm...  :-think Considering the tail construction, shape of fuselage and wheels, centrally positioned push engine, looks like Supermarine Walrus...
Only the missing closed cockpit and the front gunners' gondola pushed back from the stem puts doubts... Is this some Walruses' predecessor?
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on October 18, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
A friend Mark from UK said:

This is a Fokker B.1 amphibian not a Vickers Viking. I don’t know where the photo was taken. I doubt it was outside the Rolls-Royce plant as the B.1 used a Napier Lion engine which can be seen in the photo.

Will see, too strange for me.

Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: g-1reaper on November 19, 2009, 02:04:32 PM
Another one :))

(http://www.postimage.org/aV1UPx40.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1UPx40)

Ah that's a funny picture! It shows an AVRO 504K allright, when it was pulled out of service with the Netherlands Indies Air Corps... On the other side of the fuselage stood "lach maar, ook jij zult oud worden" (laugh, you'll grow older too)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on November 19, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
I wonder did the pilot really flew with mask show on this image ;)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: No.1 on November 23, 2009, 04:45:29 PM
New one:

(http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/recenzije/Arhiva/Casablanca.jpg)
Title: Re: The identify the plane thread
Post by: javier_planells on June 28, 2011, 01:39:49 AM
New one:

(http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp327/recenzije/Arhiva/Casablanca.jpg)

Looks every bit a He.46, surrounded by a Breda 20mm gun, several german SC bombs and variable pitch propellers... Now, when it comes to markings, you can kill me. I'd saiy british trophy of war. But a He-46 in Africa? Another mistery.