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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Combat Warplanes => Topic started by: mfg495 on April 19, 2007, 10:20:48 PM
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The Gloster Meteor was the Allies' first operational jet fighter. Designed by George Carter, it first flew in 1943 and commenced operations on 27 July 1944 with 616 Squadron of the Royal Air Force (RAF). The Gloster Meteor was not an aerodynamically advanced aircraft, nor even the world's fastest aircraft on introduction; its limiting Mach number in a dive was actually slower than the Spitfire's, but George Carter and his design team at Gloster had succeeded in producing an effective jet fighter that served the RAF and other air forces for decades. Meteors saw action with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) in the Korean War and remained in service with numerous air forces until the 1970s. - Text source - internet
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What an incredible info and images!! :-obey But it is not lucky in combat- in first appearance RAF pilot of... Tempest thought thnat this is German jet and few of Meteors are damaged :-roll
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Thank you, have you seen this before?
In March 7th 1945 a Gloster Meteor F I (EE227) was sent to the Rolls-Royce Plant at Hucknall for installation of two R.B.50 "Trent" turboprop engines. EE227 was selected because it was already fitted with an enlarged wing spar so the new engines could be fitted with out to many problems. The RB-50 "Trent" engine was a Rolls-Royce Derwent turbojet engine fitted with a forward drive shaft, a reduction gearbox and a Rotol five-bladed propeller of a diameter of 7' 11''.
Six month later on the 20/10/1945 at the airfield at Church Broughton the Gloster "Trent" took to the air for the first time with Eric Greenwood at the controls, making the first flight of a turboprop powered aircraft in the world. A number of problems were found with the prop wash and directional instability,the "Trent was returned to Hucknall were these were fixed and the aircraft was flying again by March 1946, later smaller Rotol propellers were fitted.
In April 1948 the "Trent" Meteor was transferred to the Navy for testing, as they were interested in the use of turboprop aircraft for deck-operations. On the 22/9/1948 the aircraft was returned to Rolls-Royce, were it was restored to it's original condition, then being returned to RAF Farborough were it was scrapped in June 1949.
Source - Internet
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Hey hey hey- lets say "source Let Let Let"- here it is image from Nico Braas collection :-ok
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:-red no out foxing you my friend :-obey
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What does it mean foxing ?
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What does it mean foxing ?
It means to Beat through cleverness and wit :)) its one of those stupid English sayings :-ok
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Ooohh yeah- we have in Serbia also many terms which could not be translated and even then not underhanded. Well- foxing is something good ;)
And we have good story here- thank you :-razz :-razz
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This could as easily go in the Sabre thread, but here's a formation photo from 19 April 1956 as No. 66 Squadron Sabres are being replaced by a mixture of Hunter Mk. 4s and Meteor Mk. 8s.
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great image :-ok Three great aircraft :-eek
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Here it is some data about the Meteor in service of Armee de'l Air:
Meteor F- 4 - 2 samples
Meteor NF- 11 - 41 samples
Meteor NF- 13 - 2 samples
Meteor NF- 14 - 2 samples
Meteor TT 20 - 6 samples
Meteor T- 7 - 13 samples
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Here we have a NF 14a Meteor of the Armee de'l Air
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Some more shots of the Meteor, this time the Photo-Recce version the PR10.
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Nice- in last image Meteor and Canberra look similar :)
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Just for you my friend a Meteor and a Canberra, image found in a newsgroup, copyright unknown.
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:-clap
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Argentine Air Meteor's
To pay off the rather large debt to the Argentine government accumulated by the UK during WW II a deal was struck late 1947 to supply a serious number of airplanes to Argentina. Britain would supply 50 ex RAF Meteors and 50 specifically produced for the Argentine Air Force (Fuerza Aérea Argentina, FAA), 10 Avro Lancaster and 20 Avro Lincoln bombers and a whole bunch of smaller planes.
The transaction caused an uproar with the US Government but somehow Attlee's socialist UK government bulldozed the deal through and the first Meteors were delivered to the FAA in March 1948.
The FAA gave the Meteors the type designation 'I' (for Interceptor). As no dual control Meteors had been included in the deal, pilot training proved to be something of a problem. The Argentine pilots selected to fly the jets had experience only on Curtiss 75 Hawk propeller fighters. A scheme was devised whereby they first learned to fly on Airspeed Oxfords (to learn dual engine flight), then on to the DH-104 Dove (for tri-cycle landing gear familiarization) and finally on to jets. Throughout the operational history of the type you'll see a large number of accidents involving collapse or other problems with the landing gear (...)
Only three times during their operational history have Argentine Meteors fired shots in anger. The first time was during the (unsuccessful) April 1955 uprising against Juan Peron. One of the Meteors shot down a rebel AT-6 (whose pilot bailed out successfully). During the September 1955 revolt, that swept away Juan Peron, they came into action again, this time on both loyalist and rebel sides. And the final time was during the 1962 political troubles.
In 1963 it was decided to buy F-86F's as interceptors and to re-classify the Meteors as fighter-bombers. They were reserialed ‘C’ (for Caza) and re-sprayed in a camouflage pattern.
The Meteor's service life ended in 1970 when they were struck off-charge after a final fly-past of 5 machines that were still airworthy. They were replaced by F-86F Sabres, A-4D Skyhawks and ultimately Dassault Mirages. Some 20 seem to remain around the country as gate-guards and in museums.
Source - Internet - 1000aircraftphotos.com
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Many of the leading magazines would be happy to have article like this ;)
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Many of the leading magazines would be happy to have article like this ;)
I think thats whats great about the 'net' the information is out there, you just have to look for it. ;)
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I think I have come to the right place
Great photos
Dan
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This month over 60 person try to join the forum. You are one of two which get approval. Enjoy :))
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Could be a nice subject for a profile. Gloster Meteor at the IAF Museum.
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I agree with you mfg495 ;) :-wave
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From my own collection, a line up of PR10 Meteors of 541 Squadron, based at RAF Benson, I think it's around early 1950's
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:-clap
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Bit of information on 541 Squadron
Formed from B & F Flights of the Photographic Reconnaissance Unit at Benson on 19 October 1942.
Equipped with Spitfires, it operated over Europe throughout the rest of the war, although some Mustangs were received and operated alongside the Spitfires from June 1944.
After the war it was intended to send the a detachment of the squadron to Africa for survey work, for which it received some Lancasters. However, this plan was cancelled and the squadron disbanded at Benson on 1 October 1946, the Lancaster element forming the nucleus of a reformed No 82 Squadron.
The squadron reformed at Benson on 1 November 1947, again in the PR role, equipped with Spitfire XIXs, which were replaced by Meteor PR 10s in December 1950. The squadron moved to Germany in June 1951 joining 2 TAF, initially at Buckeburg and later Gutersloh and Laarbruch until from May 1957, when it moved to Wunstorf, where it disbanded on 6 September 1957.
Motto: Alone above all
Source - http://www.rafweb.org/
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This could as easily go in the Sabre thread, but here's a formation photo from 19 April 1956 as No. 66 Squadron Sabres are being replaced by a mixture of Hunter Mk. 4s and Meteor Mk. 8s.
Some info on 66 Sqn:
The squadron reformed at Duxford on 1 September 1946 in the fighter role, equipped with Spitfires. These were replaced by Meteors in 1947 and in October 1949, the unit moved to Linton-on-Ouse re-equipping with Sabres in December 1953.
From 11 February 1949 until 1 November 1953, the squadron was linked with No 111 Squadron. Hunters, initially F Mk 4s, arrived in March 1956 being replaced by F Mk 6s in October and these remained the squadron's main equipment until disbanding at Acklington, to where it had moved in February 1957, on 30 September 1960.
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Meteor F.4s were also used to evaluate in-flight refueling schemes, which were never implemented in production Meteors.
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Interesting to note that first in flight refueling was tested even much before at Farnborough. I think that was in 1932 but not completely sure :-crazy
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In 1917, a pilot in the Imperial Russian Navy, Alexander P. de Seversky, proposed increasing the range of combat aircraft by refueling them in flight. De Seversky soon emigrated to the United States and became an engineer in the War Department. He applied for and received the first patent for air-to-air refueling in 1921.
The first actual transfer of fuel from one aircraft to another was little more than a stunt. On November 12, 1921, wingwalker Wesley May climbed from a Lincoln Standard to a Curtiss JN-4 airplane with a can of fuel strapped to his back. When he reached the JN-4, he poured the fuel into its gas tank. Needless to say, this was not the most practical way of refueling an airplane in flight.
In 1923, the U.S. Army undertook tests at Rockwell Field, San Diego, California, to test a more practical way to lower a hose from one airplane to refuel another in flight. In its tests, a DH-4B biplane outfitted as a tanker and equipped with a 50-foot (15-meter) length of hose and a quick-acting shutoff valve would fly above the receiver and lower the hose. The person in the rear seat of the receiver aircraft would grab the hose and connect it to the aircraft. If the hose became detached, the valve would immediately cut off the flow, preventing it from spraying fuel over the receiving aircraft and its pilot.
Source - http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/refueling/Tech22.htm
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Now you have really shock me with all of this info :-eek What a brain was Igor Sikorsky :-clap
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Have a look at this site about Alexander P. de Seversky and the P-47
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic.html
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Did the Meteor ever run into the 262 or Arado? How did they stack up?
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Never. More to this RAF Typhoon was attacked and damaged and Meteor in combat...
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The British jet program began with the construction of the Gloster E. 28/39 experimental aircraft. The experience gained allowed Gloster Aircraft in 1940 to propose a project for a twin-engine G. 41 Thunderbolt jet fighter. The name was later changed to Meteor.
It was an all-metal midplane with a cruciform tailplane and retractable landing gear. The first aircraft were equipped with Rolls-Royce RB engines.23 Welland, later replaced by Rolls-Royce Derwent. Maximum speed (for the F. Mk.I modification) - 676 km / h, flight range — 2000 km. Armament — 4 × 20 mm guns.
The Gloster Meteor was the first jet fighter of the Royal Air Force. From 1944 to 1955, 3,947 "Meteors" of various modifications were produced. It was in service with 17 countries of the world — Australia, France, Brazil, Israel, etc. Today, the aircraft can be found in museums, and 5 Meteors are in flight condition.
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The last picture shows Meteor WA820 experimentally fitted with two Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire jet engines.
It was the most powerful Meteor to fly and the airframe had to be strengthened!
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Thank you for additional info and here is another one, TT 20, with Danish flag and Swedish register