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Let Let Let - Warplanes => Combat Warplanes => Topic started by: No.1 on November 05, 2007, 10:50:38 PM

Title: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on November 05, 2007, 10:50:38 PM

Look like enlarged paper plane- what is this?

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: mfg495 on November 06, 2007, 08:24:45 PM

Is it German?  :-think

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on November 06, 2007, 08:27:25 PM

Uniforms are Germans...  :-think

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: Leo on November 12, 2007, 05:07:53 AM

 :-wise
Could it be some sort of towed target?

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: Wingman81 on November 15, 2007, 05:18:04 PM

Ive never seen it. May it be something like a Glider?

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on November 15, 2007, 05:27:00 PM

Don't know... look like paper plane made as flying object. It is for some trial purposes and maybe could be engined but this sample is very simple made of few wood sticks and fabric over it. Nothing but shape.

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: Leo on November 15, 2007, 06:55:58 PM

 :-wise

Could it be a target kite used by AA guns?

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on November 15, 2007, 08:10:57 PM

Maybe have to check out for data about this as turget tug use.

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on November 22, 2007, 11:53:13 PM

I get this from a friend:

Hi Srecko,
 
I have already spent quite a time on this one, but have no conclusive answer to it at the moment. I have searched (intuitively) in the German area, probably end of the war, to the equivalent of guided missiles. That produced the different Siemens torpedo bomber which could carry a torpedo and was guided by wire and another one, which may be this machine. 
The Flieger-Funker-Versuchabteilung of the Flugmeisterei Adlershof [in the background of your picture can possibly be seen a big hangar door at Adlershof ] made a series of radio controlled aircraft and missiles under the command of Engineer Erich Niemann. working together with Professor Schmidt and Villehad Forssman (of the Mannesmann-Mulag factory). Trials with radio controlled and with missiles were made. Their machines used the code-name 'Fledermausapparate' [Bat-machine].
There is some similarity with the French Détable radio-controlled pilot less aeroplane of 1917, which also had  rather curious 'wing' construction.
I will search on.
Cheers
Kees

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: safo_test on November 24, 2007, 06:06:53 AM

Quote from: Wingman81 on November 15, 2007, 05:18:04 PM

Ive never seen it. May it be something like a Glider?

no !
a lifting body

some times later it became this :

http://xplanes.free.fr/x24/x24/x24b_07.jpg

 :-red

_{(sorry ! it's late!)}

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: safo_test on December 01, 2007, 10:47:36 PM

(http://images2.hiboox.com/vignettes/4807/vvzmjdjm.jpg) (http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=vvzmjdjm.jpg)

(http://images2.hiboox.com/vignettes/4807/jrf48k8c.jpg) (http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=jrf48k8c.jpg)

well !
it's not german
it's not a glider
but it's similar, isn't it ?

(captions are both in french and english)

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: Wingman81 on December 01, 2007, 11:03:38 PM

Very nice safo!! :-ok

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/x24b.htm (Nasa built)

Title: Re: Early delta
Post by: No.1 on December 01, 2007, 11:21:29 PM

What is the basic idea of the inventors? Lifting body is not unkown for me, better to say I like flying wings and lifting body'y, but this aerodynamic form are effective at high Mach numbers. Most effective area of use is Mach number 5 and this is far from this design. So is there any info about the real goals of the designers?

Safo- excellent data and image anyway  :-clap